Carlton God wrote:
Elwood Blues1 wrote:
Its an absurd situation when everyone knows Brett Ratten is the coach in waiting....it will delay the development of our younger players and stifle the progress of the club having Pagan masquerading as senior coach.....
I have a few questions, any of you may answer, you know I think you people have great insight and are very astute football followers
1. Can you tell us what position we'd be in if Pagan wasn't coach? How much better would Fevola, Scotland, Stevens, Whitnall, Thornton, Walker, Simpson, OhAilpin be for example?
2. Which young players careers has Pagan destroyed? LIvingston? Sporn?
3. Russell's still only 19, if Pagan wasn't there would he be being talked about as the next Daniel Kerr?
4. Where would the improvement have come from that would have got us those 6 or 7 wins in 2005 and 2006 with another coach? or is Pagan that bad we probably would have won 12 or 13?
You must be gagging on your tongue.....
Ok I'll bite....I 'll give you Fev as a success story courtsey of Pagan although with present events I might want to review that comment.
Stevens?.....isnt the player he was at Port...has been made to play with injuries and lost interest.....no cigar on that one..
Scotland....more about opportunity playing at a weaker club, I also think Scotland has matured which is credit to him rather than Pagan.
Simpson and Setanta I will credit Barry Mitchell...you know the bloke who lives on the opposite side of the ground to Denis.....
Thornton and Russell wanted out so I dont see that as a glowing endorsement of the footy dept and Denis..
Russell the next Daniel Kerr.....nice kid is JR and I would luv to see him be the next Kerr but I think thats aiming a tad high at this stage...
AW has progressed nicely but i think DOA is the one you need to ask about Pagans hand in that development.....
Denis recycled when he should have rebuilt, we got a wizard cup and he got a contract extension...I like others agreed to him being re-signed so I wont be calling myself astute..he fooled me like a few others..
I'll give you a 2/10 for that effort, very weak.