I'm sorry if there's another thread about this.

I keep hearing that we're close to the cap limit, how is this the case? Judd was supposed to be front loaded, Fev's long gone.....who else is getting big bucks, and why?

We've got an elite young talent in Gibbs playing off a half back flank gobbling up a bit. I suspect we also had to offer Kreuzer a fair bit when GWS came sniffing around a few years back. McLean has been on 'overs' for the last 3 years. Warnock too. And probably Waite. Just to name a few.

My guess would be that Murphy & Carrazzo would be 2 of the higher earners at the club, and rightly so i would suggest.

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It's only speculation isn't it?

We had a pretty big offer to Cloke so we must have a bit of room, I think it's more that we have a lot of players still contracted.

I'm wondering how Collingwood can fit all theirs in - especially if they end up keeping Dawes.

Sticks should demand Eddie show him their books so he can verify things!!

We shouldn't be! As Des said, Judd was frontloaded, Fev gone and no-one else should be commanding that much. It is another example of our sub-standard football nous and management.

We really should be landing a big FA fish like the scum did instead of sitting around on our hands thinking that the list is great. Cos it ain't!!!

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C'mon Blueboys!

No one knows what we pay who. Equally, no one knows what Collingwood pay.

I think it's wrong to assume that either team has more 'space' than the other. All we know is what we're told by the papers, and they're about as unreliable as these boards.

We're also obliged to pay the entire salary cap (unless there are special circumstances), so someone has to get the money.

IIRC we tried to land a big fish by the name of Cloke, he stayed, we move on. Did you want Goddard at the contract the scum paid?

If we traded Warnock for a first round pick it would not only give us potential young star but make substantial room in our salary cap for when the time comes we need it.

Warnock is not worth a first round pick

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2 x 1st round picks then

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T E A M

Fine. Then they can't have him.

From Wiki

Total Player Payments, is A$8,780,000 for the 2012 season with a salary floor of $8,121,500 (i.e. 92.5% of TPP must be spent) can be more

Regards Cazzesman

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Wiki is wrong. You have to be at 95% minimum now.

What would Judd be earning after 2013?

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Essendon-Only team to have ever been found guilty of salary cap breaches in a premiership year!

Does that include the additional services agreement (or whatever it's called)?

Two Hyundais, half a dozen Mars Bars and more cardboard boxes than you can poke a cat at...

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BUMP!

Does it occur to anyone else that one of the key reasons poorly performing clubs struggle to get back up the ladder is the 92.5% annual minimum cap payments?

I understand this is supposed to help keep teams on a level playing field but I reckon it goes the other way.

Carlton is a classic example of this. Due to the necessity of paying our players what they collectively must be paid we've been handing out massive contracts to players like Murphy who, for various historical reasons (draft position, potential, performance, expectation) sits far higher on the salary ladder than he would at say Geelong or Hawthorn.

Based on what I've seen from our playing group over the last few years I struggle with the concept that they're collectively getting paid basically the same amount as Hawthorn or Geelong.

Compare Murphy to Hodge or Bartel and it's hard to see us getting value for money.

If the AFL truly want lower placed clubs to climb back up surely allowing them to cut their player payments aggressively when the talent isn't on the list and allowing them to build a war chest within the cap would be a start.

It could be argued that it might push up free agent salaries but surely it would help counter player movements like Lake, Gibson, Frawley etc to the most successful clubs if there was a genuine gap between what a lowly placed club could pay and what a highly placed club could offer in terms of reduced salary albeit attached to greater prospects of success.

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weve been getting murphy involved outside the salary cap

3rd party stuff like the failed property deal with simmo and gibbs

and the 20 odd players that were visy ambassadors

judds pokies and night club deal with president mark...

his Visy thing

in our case .... its just money

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The fact that we then want to add extra cash on top of that just shows how truly out of our minds we are when it comes to financial management.

But this isn't just about us.

If a club could drop its cap payments to 75% for a couple of years it could seriously reinvigorate a list. At the moment you have to keep paying high dollars to blokes who don't deserve it.

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