There are too many people on this site who think we are a rabble i.e. our coach is crap, our team is crap (except Fev, Judd and maybe Houilhan ), our president is crap, Teague is crap and our Moderators are.

Right now I am focused on finals and with my short sighted view I want you to crytsal ball the future and tell me (and this wonderful website) what we have to do to make it to finals in 2009? I am very busy and don't have time to analyse who WE need to beat and who our opposition need to lose against to make finals so please help me

My only assumption is if we beat North, Geelong, Port, Melbourne and Adelaide we will finish fourth.

Lets discuss finals in 2009 and if you think we will not make it then post over at Talking AFL, because we will make it.

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I'm thinking Rd 22, Carlton vs Adelaide at the dome, winner gets 6th spot, loser 7th. Regardless of win/lose/draw both teams will meet 1st week in the finals, result will just decided home ground advantage.

Going to be a real pain in the ars3 if we make the finals for the first time since 2001 and have to play an interstate game and fans miss out.

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Funnily enough, I was just playing with the AFL Ladder predictor at http://www.afl.com.au/ladder%20predicto ... fault.aspx

I had us winning only two of the remaining games (Norf and Dees) and we were a game + small percent clear in 8th possy, playing Collingwood in the first week of the finals.

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We will finish 7th and have to play interstate against either Brisbane or Adelaide IMO. I guess we are a fair chance to play Collingwood at the MCG however.
The Western Bulldogs have a stong % and play their next 2 matches at Etihad against West Coast and Freo so they should make the top 4.

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Win 2 of the remaining 5 games and our fate depends on what happens with other teams.
Win 3 of the remaining 5 games and we can start the celebrations.

Good results for the Blues over the weekend (other than the debacle on Friday Night). Hawks, Dons and Power all going down keeps us in a strong position.

Two more wins will be enough though we should get three (Demons, Norf and Power)

Wow. None of the teams below us punished us.

Bad loss by Essendon* all things considered. Hawks might climb over them now.

Predictions from here on out;

Carlton for Finals! Just!

RD 18: Carl D. NM (30-60); WB D. FRE (60+); Geelong D. Adelaide (12-30); StK D. SYD (30-60); COL D. BRI (12-30); RICH D. MEL (12-30); PORT D. HAW (12-30); ESS D. WCE (12-30)

RD 19: Geelong D. Carlton (30-60); WB D. WCE (60+); StK D. HAW (12-30); ESS D. BRI (12-30); ADE D. COL (12-30); NM D. MEL (12-30); SYD D. RICH (12-30); PORT D FRE (12-30)

RD 20: HAW D. ADE (12-30); COL D. RICH (60+); WCE D. NM (30-60); BRI D. WB (12-30); GEE D. SYD (30-60); MEL D. FRE (12-30); PORT D. CARL (12-30); StK D. ESS (30-60)

RD 21: WB D. GEE (1-12); CARL D. MEL (60+); ADE D. WCE (60+); BRI D. PORT (30-60); HAW D. RICH (30-60); STK D. NM (60+); COL D. SYD (30-60); ESS D. FRE (30-60)

RD 22: WCE D. RICH (30-60); GEE D. FRE (60+); HAW D. ESS (12-30); CARL D. ADE (12-30); BRI D. SYD (30-60); PORT D. NM (60+); STK D. MEL (30-60); WB D. COLL (12-30)

Final AFL Ladder

1 - St Kilda 22-0-88 162%
2 - Geelong 19-3-76 135.3%
3 - Bulldogs 15-7-60 124.9%
4 - Collingwood 14-8-56 116.1%
5 - Brisbane 14-8-56 111.2%
6 - Adelaide 13-9-52 110.9%
7 - Carlton 12-10-48 109.4%
8 - Port Adelaide 12-10-48 95.7%
9 - Essendon* 11-11-44 101.3%
10 - Hawthorn 11-11-44 96.0%
11 - Sydney 8-6-32 88.2%
12 - West Coast 6-16-24 86.6%
13 - Richmond 5-1-16-22 79.6%
14 - North Melb 5-1-16-22 75.8%
15 - Melbourne 4-18-16 74.6%
16 - Fremantle 4-18-16 72.1%

Finals Predictions

Qualifying & Elimination Finals

St Kilda D. Collingwood by 27 pts
Brisbane D. Port Adelaide by 19 pts
Adelaide D. Carlton by 21 pts
Western Bulldogs D. Geelong by 3 pts

Semi-Finals

Collingwood D. Brisbane by 46 pts
Geelong D. Adelaide by 39 pts

Preliminary Finals

St Kilda D. Geelong by 7 pts
Western Bulldogs D. Collingwood by 18 pts

Grand Final

St Kilda D. Western Bulldogs by 13 pts

Premiers: St Kilda
Norm Smith Medallist: Leigh Montagna

Carlton to play Norf this Friday night.

That's all I got.

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i predict we will beat melbourne

thats about it

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

The Ladder Predictor is a lot of fun - I just did one where the Blues dont win a game for the rest of the season and still manage to scrape into the final 8 with 9 wins and find themselves playing the Pies in the first final.

Think positively - we can still make the finals even if we lose all of our remaining games! We need a few results to go our way but we can do it!

i dont see much at all positive of losing all our remaining games and scraping into the finals on 9 wins

and its not realistic either

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

stkilda
Geelong
Bulldogs
Collingwood
Adelaide
Brisbane
Carlton
Hawthorn


finals:

Saints d collingwood by 42
Geelong d bulldogs by 16
hawthorn d adelaide by 7
carlton d brisbane by 9

hawthorn d collingwood by 18
bulldogs d carlton by 26

Geelong d hawthorn by 4
Stkilda d bbulldogs by 19

Geelong d bulldogs by 32
Norm smith: Bartel

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Check the draw - the one win that we cant avoid (we owe the Dees a favour after they let us win the Kreuzer Cup) will be plenty to get us over the line. That forces two of Hawks / Essendon* / Port to have to win 3 out of the last 5 for us to miss out and that wont happen.

Book your tickets for Week 1 of the finals and then plan to go away for the rest of September

very lucky indeed to be where we are - one game ahead of the pack in 7th - undeserved good fortune. but luck will play a big role in 2009.

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I am expecting Hawthorn to come home with a wet sail.

Obviously the game against Port at AAMI is a crunch one.

Lose that and it will come down to % with 3 teams at 11 wins.

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If Hawthorn get 8th spot, look out the rest.
Geelong has injuries that have weakened them.
SK only needs Reiwoldt to get injured and they are nowhere near as strong. Otherwidse they can go all the way undefeated and proof that getting a plethora of #1 and 2 picks works.
Collingwood is like us and Essendon*. Win one lose one.
Adelaide is a smoky and we will see how good they are soon enough.
The Doggies are a shade below the Saints and Geelong.


IMO, If Hawthorn get a sniff, they will get to the GF and maybe lose it to Stk or Geelong if Geelong has a decent team on the park. They have the cattle to win it from eighth.
We will fininsh seventh unless we have a shock loss to North. It will take something special for us to get past week one but at the start of the year I wanted to finish 6-8 and I would be happy.

At least we know Richmond isn't tanking. Bastards. I wanted Essendon* to win and keep a gap between them and Hawtorn.

Stk
Geel
Dogs
Coll
Adel
Bris
Carl
Haw on percentage. Bris will beat Essendon* to allow this to happen. Haw will go close to SK and the percentage difference will be the difference.

After that it's anybody's guess.
Mind you, I haven't tipped eight all year so what do I know?

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2 out of 5 provided we don't get carved should see us through. The others trying to make up the numbers have terrible percentages. I have us pegged for three wins. Four guarantees us 6th and a home final.

Hawthorn and even Port are still amongst the probable group, would you believe.

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i can't believe our luck.
the geelong win and Essendon* loss in particular. looking at the port v hawks game next week, not to mention the bombers playing the lions and saints in the next three weeks..... it's just what we need.

still, destiny is in our hands, and we can win enough games to make the 8. finally.