1 St. Kilda 18/4
2 Geelong 17/5
3 Carlton 16/6
4 Hawthorn 16/6
5 Collingwood 15/7
6 Western Bulldogs 13/9
7 Brisbane 12/10
8 Adelaide 12/10
9 West Coast
10 Sydney
11 Essendon*
12 North Melbourne
13 Fremantle
14 Port Adelaide
15 Melbourne
16 Richmond

I'll at least wait until the fixtures come out

All I'll Predict is Bottom 4: Richmond, North Melbourne, Sydney, Melbourne

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#23: Lachlan Henderson

Hmm something like that. I can't help getting a feeling that this preliminary loss will shift the Bulldogs into gear, they;ll pick up Barry Hall and have a very strong year, similar to how no one expected it from the Saints this year.

1. Western Bulldogs
2. St Kilda
3. Hawthorn
4. Carlton
5. Geelong
6. Collingwood
7. Adelaide
8. Brisbane

9. West Coast
10. Essendon*
11. North Melbourne
12. Sydney
13. Richmond
14. Port Adelaide
15. Fremantle
16. Melbourne

Doggies
Crows
Saints
Blues
Cats
Pies
Hawks
Eagles

Power
Lions
Bombers
Swans
Kangas
Demons
Dockers
Tigers

And like most media punters, most will get it wrong.

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