How many talls are too many talls?

aramari · **Posted:** Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:33 pm

Rule of thumb - 8 tall blokes max. At times we've had 9-10 in the 22.

Yes there are versatile, fast, agile talls, which is great. I'd prefer more speedy skillful smalls to do the job of winning the ball at ground level and moving the ball on than extra talls who are "quick for their height". It's called team balance.

fraser murphy · **Joined:** Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:04 pm **Posts:** 1685

Synbad wrote:

Probably pretty much the same set up... but Simmo across half back(instead of Wiggo)... with Grigg in on one wing...
Not too many teams have 3 big strong forwards...

(thats for current players available..)

Full list... best form players..

Waite playing through the midfield...helping back in defence and ghosting forward as another forward option..as well as creating the missmatch in the midfield for a marking option...

Like the idea of Waite on a wing when he comes back, fitness permitting. Offers something different as you say.

Can see the merit in putting Simmo on the half-back flank; has the dash and disposal that Wiggo lacks.

However....

Wiggo has big, mature body and a propensity to use it with no regards to himself or opposition players. Something that as courageous as Thornton, Bower, Army, Russell, Walks and Houlihan ( :?:

) are, don't quite have, at least not right now. Wiggo offers something different, but yes it does come at a price.

Teen Spirit · **Joined:** Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:50 pm **Posts:** 1122

the biggest upside of simmo's game is his attacking ability. He's often used in an attacking role to bring his opponent into a defensive mindset to negate their attacking game. . Often simmo's opponent will gather several posessions, but it's simmo's job to kick those 2goals and hit fev lace out in order for the opponent to pay him more attention. Simmo'd goalkicking is at its highest level ever, so my question is why ruin that and put him as a defender? Especially with joseph etc coming along so nicely.

Synbad · **Posted:** Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:22 am

Teen Spirit wrote:

the biggest upside of simmo's game is his attacking ability. He's often used in an attacking role to bring his opponent into a defensive mindset to negate their attacking game. . Often simmo's opponent will gather several posessions, but it's simmo's job to kick those 2goals and hit fev lace out in order for the opponent to pay him more attention. Simmo'd goalkicking is at its highest level ever, so my question is why ruin that and put him as a defender? Especially with joseph etc coming along so nicely.

How many goals has he kicked?

camel · **Posted:** Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:44 am

You can't have too many talls come finals time. :razz:

Mrs Caz · **Posted:** Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:48 am

Where Have I heard that before?

:razz:

Blue Blood Believer · **Posted:** Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:16 am

Synbad wrote:

Teen Spirit wrote:

the biggest upside of simmo's game is his attacking ability. He's often used in an attacking role to bring his opponent into a defensive mindset to negate their attacking game. . Often simmo's opponent will gather several posessions, but it's simmo's job to kick those 2goals and hit fev lace out in order for the opponent to pay him more attention. Simmo'd goalkicking is at its highest level ever, so my question is why ruin that and put him as a defender? Especially with joseph etc coming along so nicely.

How many goals has he kicked?

11 or 12?

Blue Sombrero · **Posted:** Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:01 pm

aramari wrote:

Rule of thumb - 8 tall blokes max. At times we've had 9-10 in the 22.

Yes there are versatile, fast, agile talls, which is great. I'd prefer more speedy skillful smalls to do the job of winning the ball at ground level and moving the ball on than extra talls who are "quick for their height". It's called team balance.

I think my thumb must be taller than yours...

Effes · **Posted:** Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:43 pm

Interesting that St Kilda have dropped Hudghton, leaving them with Fisher as a genuine tall and three quasi talls in Gilbert/Blake/Dawson.

fraser murphy · **Joined:** Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:04 pm **Posts:** 1685

Effes wrote:

Interesting that St Kilda have dropped Hudghton, leaving them with Fisher as a genuine tall and three quasi talls in Gilbert/Blake/Dawson.

...and yet Gilbert and Dawson are taller than Max. Intriguing...

Effes · **Posted:** Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:12 pm

fraser murphy wrote:

Effes wrote:

Interesting that St Kilda have dropped Hudghton, leaving them with Fisher as a genuine tall and three quasi talls in Gilbert/Blake/Dawson.

...and yet Gilbert and Dawson are taller than Max. Intriguing...

Maybe it's matchup based. You see Hudghton on Fev before Gilbert or Dawson.

fraser murphy · **Joined:** Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:04 pm **Posts:** 1685

Hudghton is a pure full-back, and a very good one, much like Jamo is for us.

You need a player like that against a pure full-forward, and a very good one, like Fev.

The problem these days for pure full-backs is that there aren't a lot of very good pure full-forwards going around. Most coaches would rather play a more attacking tall defender in their stead if they can get away with it.

Mark J · **Posted:** Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:31 pm

All this tells me one thing.....we have great depth!

Bring on 17 :thumbsup:

Belisarius · **Joined:** Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:20 am **Posts:** 548

Effes wrote:

fraser murphy wrote:

Effes wrote:

Interesting that St Kilda have dropped Hudghton, leaving them with Fisher as a genuine tall and three quasi talls in Gilbert/Blake/Dawson.

...and yet Gilbert and Dawson are taller than Max. Intriguing...

Maybe it's matchup based. You see Hudghton on Fev before Gilbert or Dawson.

They can't afford to play both Max and Dawson, you don't need two predominantly defensive talls. Blake, Gilbert and Fisher run and carry the other two not so much.... They probably preferred Dawson because he uses the ball a bit better than Max.

Dawson and Max would have been lucky to have the pill ten times between then last Sunday.

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