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BlueMark

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:44 am

Craig Bradley

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bosman wrote:

Were going to thrash the eagles by 100 points tonight and then play like retards the week after...

Well it would fit the pattern.

Have no problem with what Wallsy wrote, just glad he is not caning our opposition like he has in the past and they have then come out and pasted us.

Coaching staff do use media articles like Wallsy's for motivation so lets hope the players are aware of it.

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ThePsychologist

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:49 am

formerly cj69

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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:

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Not sure the boys read The Age - especially on game day.

As for Bret Thornton down forward, it's not a silly idea at all.. I've been going to enough training sessions to see that Thornton takes his goalkicking practice very seriously. Sometimes a bit too seriously for his teammates, who only see him as a defender.

As you know Doc I have been saying for a long time he is a forward. Played there as a kid and is better suited to the position.

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Belisarius

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:54 am

Bert Deacon

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Blues Clues wrote:

You beauty, it had to be said.

His reference to the "praise" Fev gets for doing the "givens" of AFL, i.e. chasing and tackling, was so flowering on the money.

It has been curious hasn't it. We are trying to make the forwardline not so much about the Fev and then at times make the post match all about the Fev playing a team role :screwy:

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Melvey

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:58 am

Robert Walls

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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:

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Not sure the boys read The Age - especially on game day.

With Waite going down T-bird is going to have to play his role made famous by Luke Hodge.

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Belisarius

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:59 am

Bert Deacon

Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:20 am
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A reasonable assessment by Walls :eek:

Both players and coaches need to improve. I believe many will and I don't just mean tonight :thumbsup:

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MIL

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 2:19 pm

Mike Fitzpatrick

Joined: Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:43 pm
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sjabc wrote:

Liked the article. Spot on IMO.

I think the clubs biggest problem, is helping Judd. They need to ensure someone sacrifices their game, and takes out Judd's tagger every week. Tag the tagger.

The blokes best suited to this job are AJ, JR, Banno and Armfield. Why not give JR a crack......we know his skills are crap, but he is fast, has a biggish body and can run all day. And at least we'll know if he beat his man.....

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BlueMark

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 2:28 pm

Craig Bradley

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Using Russell as a chop out isn't such a bad idea.

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Pickle

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 2:41 pm

Bob Chitty

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BlueMark wrote:

Using Russell as a chop out isn't such a bad idea.

But you can't just use someone for the role and have the problem solved! That person needs to be able to do that job and have the instincts to take somene out if necessary.....can't see JR doing that.

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DocSherrin III

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 2:53 pm

Stephen Kernahan

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Quote:

Using Russell as a chop out isn't such a bad idea.

People on here have been using Russell as the cop out for years...Oh - chop out...well...why not?!

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Elwood Blues1

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:32 pm

Mike Fitzpatrick

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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:

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Not sure the boys read The Age - especially on game day.

If I were the coach, I'd make sure they read it.

As for Bret Thornton down forward, it's not a silly idea at all.. I've been going to enough training sessions to see that Thornton takes his goalkicking practice very seriously. Sometimes a bit too seriously for his teammates, who only see him as a defender. He can be a better defender...if he grasped the modern game a bit better - Austin and Kreuzer are natural forwards who if developed properly will be very effective.

What some, including Walls don't see is the frightening statistic that reads there are 27 players on the Carlton list who fall under the 'development' umbrella. Whether that number is too large, whether it could have been avoided due to personnel on the list or recruiting methodology is perhaps just as pertinent a question as to asking when will Carlton arrive?

Having 27 players under the development umbrella?...is that too many for a rookie coach? or are our assistants struggling with their roles?

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bondiblue

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:34 pm

Stephen Silvagni

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ThePsychologist wrote:

Dr.SHERRIN wrote:

Quote:

Not sure the boys read The Age - especially on game day.

As you know Doc I have been saying for a long time he is a forward. Played there as a kid and is better suited to the position.

No you haven't CJ has :wink:

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ThePsychologist

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:39 pm

formerly cj69

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bondiblue wrote:

ThePsychologist wrote:

Dr.SHERRIN wrote:

Quote:

Not sure the boys read The Age - especially on game day.

As you know Doc I have been saying for a long time he is a forward. Played there as a kid and is better suited to the position.

No you haven't CJ has :wink:

Just to clarify BB CJ was actually three people on the same address. That's why I have gone on my own.

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Cazzesman

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:45 pm

Stephen Kernahan

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ThePsychologist wrote:

Just to clarify BB CJ was actually three people on the same address.

That explains alot :wink:

Regards Cazzesman

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ThePsychologist

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:52 pm

formerly cj69

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Cazzesman wrote:

ThePsychologist wrote:

Just to clarify BB CJ was actually three people on the same address.

That explains alot :wink:

Regards Cazzesman

Obvious answer! :clap:

CJ69 = co-joined 69. Work it out.

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Wojee

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 4:00 pm

Bruce Doull

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Unless I'm mistaken you only need two people to make 69.

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ThePsychologist

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 4:05 pm

formerly cj69

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Wojee wrote:

Unless I'm mistaken you only need two people to make 69.

Need to get out more often Wojee!

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bluey95

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 4:23 pm

Bert Deacon

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Location: Canberra

[quote="Synbad"]Setanta should be full back cos he wouldnt have to worry about the game all around him.
Just ahead of him....[/quote]

That's a great call Synners - keep it simple for him and he can just get in and crash packs and let our smalls sort out the rest!

We have been getting the ball out of defence a bit better this year, so this may work!

Rich

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Nicko Carstairs

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 5:16 pm

John James

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bosman wrote:

This is a great day IMO..

Both the age and the hun are having goes at the club and individual players.

Were going to thrash the eagles by 100 points tonight and then play like retards the week after...

I hope so too after the reverse happened with the James Hird article

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Blue Sombrero

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 7:15 pm

Stephen Kernahan

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Just thought I'd say thanks to those who caused the 'talking players' forum to be shut down.

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Juddy&theKruezers

Post subject: Re: Walls: Carlton: no more excuses

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 7:20 pm

Mike Fitzpatrick

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Blue Sombrero wrote:

Just thought I'd say thanks to those who caused the 'talking players' forum to be shut down.

Wallsey's fault.

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