And a lot of people here would argue he plays like a pick 72.

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No matter how long it takes Carlton to rebuild, they will still win a premiership before Essendon* and Collingwood.

Fish was a TAC Cup Premiership Full Forward in his year - given he we didnt have much choice in 2002 Draft - I reckon he was an absolute steal at Pick 72.

And seriously getting Simpson (at Pick 45) and Fisher (at Pick72) in that draft - we werent doing too bad (would still loved to have picked up Goddard and Wells) - but Simpson and Fisher will be 100 game players for Carlton and I reckon one of them will get to 200 games.

Fish had a horror year in front of goals (compared to his Season 2007) lets hope a good pre-season and a chance to recover from all his injuries -some work on his skills - and he will be looking at a 40+ goal return from him.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Guys like Fish, AW and Stevens will be the real barometers for the 09 Blues. If all 3 can remain fit and stay on the park playing consistent footy it will take the pressure off so many others around the ground.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

From memory Karl Norman was pick 79 in the same draft as Fisher and Simpson.

What a waste of talent.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

No to mention Lawrence Angwin. Now that was a waste of talent too.

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1945 - End of round 3 Carlton was last.

Last round Carlton made the final four for the first time.

Eventual premiers.

That's what I'm talking about!

Agree Cazz . They will be 3 vital players next year . All top players when fully fit . Just hope for good pre-seasons , and ready to fir in round 1 !!!

2 of the 3 are top players when fully fit

Righto, I'll bite Mel! 1AW is one. Who is the other one?

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2002:> "In their Masters Chambers
They Gathered for their Feast
They Stabbed us with their Steely Knives
But They Just Can't Kill The Beast!" <2016

THE BLUEBAGGER BEAST IS BAACKK!!

Just goes to show that Shane O wasn't a bad spotter of talent. Intrigues me why he had so many middle to late hits and some very ordinary early misses

That draft had the potential to be quite unbelievable, pity half of them were knobs. I wonder if our senior players were like the leadership group mentioned by Ricky Nixon in a newspaper today whether Karl and Laurie's drug problem could have been nipped in the bud early.

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Shane O'Sullivan was/is an excellent spotter of talent - its just that when he was head of recruiting he actually was never allowed to pick the players he wanted - Parkin's 'hard body/older player' philosophy took precedence at MC and Board Level and O'Sullivan had to pick the players he was told to pick.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

You are spot on Grumpy. SOS remains one of the most maligned carlton officials on footy forums. It is a pity that some people who can him, don't really know what was happening behind the scenes. He would have his list which had been nutted out with a plethora of talent spotters over years or at least moths of research and parko and JE would say nah we need knuckle nuts who is a ready to go man not some soft kid who will take years of development.

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2002:> "In their Masters Chambers
They Gathered for their Feast
They Stabbed us with their Steely Knives
But They Just Can't Kill The Beast!" <2016

THE BLUEBAGGER BEAST IS BAACKK!!

So O'Sullivan didn't want Livingston, Vance, Sporn? He must've been furious.

On fire today Verbs!

Whomever is responsible for Wiggins is in my good books.

If I remember rightly. He had Livo, Wiggo and Beasy on his lists, but not Sporn, Vance, Campbell etc. Geez, give me a break. I'm an old fella now. I do tend to to have selective memory.

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2002:> "In their Masters Chambers
They Gathered for their Feast
They Stabbed us with their Steely Knives
But They Just Can't Kill The Beast!" <2016

THE BLUEBAGGER BEAST IS BAACKK!!

Surely Swanny isn't still on 3AW?

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"I had to eat"

He left about 15 minutes ago.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

the 3AW interview

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Love Cricket? Love me

6.50 tonight.

3AW?

Or is it SEN reporting what was said on 3AW?

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