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To think that the Sunday rag here in Adelaide classed him as "tradeable" cos and I quote "had huge hype as a no 1 draft pick but hasn't yet reached those lofty heights"

Class journalism :roll:


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DoublebluMots2 wrote:
To think that the Sunday rag here in Adelaide classed him as "tradeable" cos and I quote "had huge hype as a no 1 draft pick but hasn't yet reached those lofty heights"

Class journalism :roll:


He's clearly the best player to come from the 2005 draft......what more do they expect?
I can already think of a few previous no 1 picks he has already surpassed i.e. Johnstone, Headland, Fraser, Goddard and probably Deledio.

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http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/compare_players?tid1=107&pid1=2002057&tid2=103&pid2=2006028

The thing that stands out for me, and I did a comparison between Bartel and Stevens as well, our guys aren't that far behind in terms of possessions, clearances etc but we're miles behind Bartel in tackles and 1%ers.


And thats the difference to winning a premiership. I think our midfield is desperately needing a Sammy Mitchell or a Bartel type player for us to take the next step.


How about we develop a Marc Murphy or Bryce Gibbs type. ;)

Was only a few years ago that Bartel was being talked about at the trade table and everyone though Mitchell was too slow with dodgy skills.

The point being, with time, experience and mental/physical maturity there's no reason why our current midfield shouldn't become known as the Famous Five...

Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Stevens, Grigg. 8)


Don't forget about Kruezer because he will become another midfielder ala cox type role in years to come.


Cox is so overrated when it comes to his around the ground abilities. All cox does is float around the back half getting cheap kicks. Kreuz throws himself in at the ball and is a great mark up forward - he will be better than Dean Cox
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Is the original post effective disposals?
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verbs wrote:
Is the original post effective disposals?

It's kicks, not disposals. ryan [REDACTED] up.

Murph has 506 disposals, with an effective disposal percentage of 70.17

Bartell has 589 disposals, with an effective disposal percentage of 73.54

The AFL average effective disposal percentage is 74.59

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Melvey wrote:
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http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/compare_players?tid1=107&pid1=2002057&tid2=103&pid2=2006028

The thing that stands out for me, and I did a comparison between Bartel and Stevens as well, our guys aren't that far behind in terms of possessions, clearances etc but we're miles behind Bartel in tackles and 1%ers.


And thats the difference to winning a premiership. I think our midfield is desperately needing a Sammy Mitchell or a Bartel type player for us to take the next step.


How about we develop a Marc Murphy or Bryce Gibbs type. ;)

Was only a few years ago that Bartel was being talked about at the trade table and everyone though Mitchell was too slow with dodgy skills.

The point being, with time, experience and mental/physical maturity there's no reason why our current midfield shouldn't become known as the Famous Five...

Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Stevens, Grigg. 8)


I don't doubt that and am excited by the thought.

Im not saying we have to get Kerr and Kerr only. Our midfield lacks grunt and players like a Mitchell, Black, West and Kerr is what we are missing. Even a Brock Mclean who is hard at it, puts his head over it and takes the bumps and dishes them out.

At the moment we play our best footy when its free flowing and loose. The kangas smashed us, the lions skipped away when they went man on man, the swans got over the line cause they made it a contest.

We need a hard nut ball winner and then Juddy can really put the foot down and blow teams away.


Richard Hadley come on down :-D
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nice stats ryan. having a great season, but the quality of disposal needs to be more consistant. his kicking in his first year was fantastic but its appeared to decrease.
09 is murphy's year :wink:

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I get this feeling that in 1 or 2 years Marc Murphy will be a very similar player to what G.Ablett jr is now.
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Yep, he just needs to pick the right option more often and hit his targets on a more consistent basis and he'll be a superstar.


Once he gains the consistency, application and hardness of Dale Thomas he'll begin to get the recognition he deserves. :roll:



.....cough*and the showmanship*cough. :P

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I get this feeling that in 1 or 2 years Marc Murphy will be a very similar player to what G.Ablett jr is now.


No chance. Gazzas very quick of the mark and has awesome evasive skills.

Murph has similar (on field) attributes to a Ben Cousins type. All he needs to work on is that gut busting running of course without the contribution of substances
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