WC won a premiersp and played off for another preiershipwithout having one good forward....

.. now im not saying we should be playing off for a premiership... im saying we have one good forward which is better than no good forwards.. but we dont know how to use the space for him and others...

in case people dont understand wy we did what we did....

.. its because we dont have answers....

.......and we dont have aNswers cos we arent drilled...

.... and we arent drilled cos were playing without proper planning ......


.... that planning is worked on pre season and weekdays......


... we dont run hard....
.. we dont work for each other.....

... and if you want to be a good side you must be drilled in what everyone should be doing not only when u have the ball.. but when you dont......!!!!

the game is played all over the ground at any moment.... its not just played at the end the ball is .. and with whoever has his hands on the ball...

players must know when to run forward when to run back... when to make space.. where to kick the ball... and how to open up a passageway for the ballrunner.. the ball user and the intended targets...

.. those intended targets are options a) b)c) d) e) etc....

.. and theyre not just forwards but link players...!!!.. carriers of the footy to project the ball from position A.. wherever that is on the ground at any given moment.. to position B.. C...D...and so on.. towards an effective avenue to goal....regardless of how the opposition defece is set up...

that only comesd with imagination and planning.. and then execution.... and if you practice it enough.. it will be obvious its happening.. and eventually it will be executed effectively...!!!

thats what i wanna see...

now if it takes games or a year or so... thats ok...

bt there must be evidence of it....!!!

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Please continue ....

Simple answer to the original question yes Pagan could have coached worse because he coached like crap for 5 years
Some of the worst games of football everplayed were under Pagan's leadership.
Pagan < Ratten

its obvious that rattan is heavily influenced by david parkin...and he was the man.

Very true, the way we play is definitely a continuation of the Parko/Britts era.

Remember as crap as we were in 2002 we only lost 2 games by over 10 goals.

Gibbs would probably still be in the back pocket

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Well the tempo football was thrown out the door...

... and we used KReuzer and not just Fev...

,,,, imagination......... wasnt it???

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BUDDA BING!!!!!

He shoots.

He scores.

And that's the ball game.

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More importantly we tried different things when its not working. You cannot have only one style of play these days, different game plans for different teams takes out the predictability.

Some times they work and sometimes it doesn't.

Geez I was pleased by last night, once we have another forward to help out Fev, look out......

Bump

Well synbad I looked at collingwood today - how do you think their plan went

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We should sack Ratten............

Yeah piss him off............ LOL!


I must admit....... i don't like how we continually play the flanks for 3qtrs and then run it through the centre in the last qtr as we have been doing for the past 3 or 4 games but.....shit,..... it's working so i should just shut my mouth and let Ratten do his shit!

If it ain't broke......

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Ill tell you what.. give Fev and Judd to Collinwgwood and ill let u know???

The argument is this Sydney Blue.. coz i dont think you really understand stuff.... no matter what it is.. you have a very simple understanding.

Its about a coach and what he can extract out of what he has...

For instance....

How many absolute stars has Collingwood got?????

How do they go on the ladder with what they have????

Malthouse polishes a turd.. but its still a turd...
Player for player they dont compare...

Ratts has more to work with... PLUS the best full forward in the country.. (yes i know.. you think hes shit).. and the best player in the country overall...


And since we spoke about how we were paying.... he has changed our style...

(maybe he reads TC)

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Synbad, Malthouse doesn't polish the turd, he just rolls it in glitter.

It's still a turd though.

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Malthouse is indeed a top coach. That side is playing well above their capabilities............ and they look confident doing it too.

But, Ratten, like our list, is a young coach and is only gonna learn with experience.

At the halfway point, i'd put ratten on about 6.5 out of 10. Maybe a 7.

Like Synbad said, he has the best player in the AFL (albeit a half fit best player in the AFL), the best forward in the AFL (maybe 2nd best ATM), and at least half a dozen very talented young kids who are willing to give it their all!

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Got to remember this is a very new side playing together, which is why they have been improving constanrly over the season. We know we have more talent than the Pies, and its just beginning to be tapped.