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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:27 am 
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Stephen Kernahan
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Fev is our FF. He is there to kick goals, not be a decoy.

His 3rd year will be veterans listed so a backloaded contract will help the cap issues.


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Apart from Wiggins and Betts, Fevola is the only player in our squad who can regularly kick a goal from a set-shot.


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Im one of the guys who comes on here and bags JR fro simply being PATHETIC however, I am all for signing FEV ASAP as he is a STAR, the only forward we have who can kick goals, the only real target we have.

I cant understand how people on this site are 2nd guessing a new contract to the Fev???? doesnt make any sense at all.

Let focus on the selection team who decided to pick Ackland instead of Hamo. I read they went for maturity, F**k off... Kruz the rookie got more hitouts than Ackland, what did that prick bring to the game apart from making the club look bad.

The club needs to make a decision on our list, who will be there for our next premiership and start playing these kids now now now...

Be there:
Judd, murph, Fev, fish, walker, waite, jamo, bower, hamo, kruz, stevo, eddie, hadds and browne, thornton

Not there:
Ackland, saddington, houla, JR, bentick, blackwell, wiggins,

Maybe:
Gibbs- if he doesnt start playing on the ball very soon then im gona lose it, we're the only club that plays a number 1 pick as a tager, all the other get tagged, work this one out???

Scotts- depending on how soon we get to were we want to be.

Irish- same as Scotts.


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Trading Fev because we're "too Fev-centric" seems an odd position to take, I'd much rather we picked up another good forward or two to help him shoulder the load.

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Wojee wrote:
Trading Fev because we're "too Fev-centric" seems an odd position to take, I'd much rather we picked up another good forward or two to help him shoulder the load.


Much like with the Victorian side. Fevola and Brown worked well together I thought.


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Surely our coaching staff can correct a 'Fevola centric' game plan without having to trade off Fevola!!! The problem isnt with fev its with the lack of forwards to support him. Hartlett cant get on the track, we traded JK, and Waite's needed down back. if we want to do anyhting at trade time lets trade off some flankers or guys that dont seem to be able to get it together for us.

Trading established champions for draft picks is a mug's game. How about if we traded Fev for picks and then drafted a latter day Luke Livingston and Adam Hartlett. Yeah I know harts might yet come good etc etc

Point is we would be starting off next year with a midfield on the way up and a forward line with a few skinny spindly kids learning the craft from scratch. How about we keep what we have, draft the best key forward we can with pick 6-7 (or whatever we get this year), keep Fev and if the chance to offload someone for whom things arent working out at Carlton in a trade that suits us comes along, then do that as well.

Hawthorn might have sold off the dead wood for draft picks and done it well but it wont work when 3 teams all try to do it at the same time this trade season. If anything a better strategy might be to watch the fallout from Essendon*/Melbourne/Fremantle trying to rebuild their lists, watch what they are trying to do and snipe in where the going is good.

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Wojee wrote:
Trading Fev because we're "too Fev-centric" seems an odd position to take, I'd much rather we picked up another good forward or two to help him shoulder the load.


I don't think that's the reason we'd be trading him :) He kinda has an issue with his attitude and is on his last chance. If he fukes up again, we'll have no option other than to sack him. If that were to happen, he'd be worth jack didley squat.

I hardly think we'd be trading him because we kick it to him too often :lol: .

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The Duke wrote:
Wojee wrote:
Trading Fev because we're "too Fev-centric" seems an odd position to take, I'd much rather we picked up another good forward or two to help him shoulder the load.


I don't think that's the reason we'd be trading him :) He kinda has an issue with his attitude and is on his last chance. If he flower up again, we'll have no option other than to sack him. If that were to happen, he'd be worth jack didley squat.

I hardly think we'd be trading him because we kick it to him too often :lol: .


Have you read the thread?

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The question is, what is right for Carlton in the long term? Do we keep him knowing that he will play up at some point, he has major issues with body language and demeanour on the field and causes us to be too Fevola focused? Is this right for us at this point or do we shop around one of the biggest potential trades we have and see what we can get?


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Re-sign Fevola because he masks our true capabilities?
Perhaps we're better off realising our true worth and trying to improve it with draft picks instead of masking it.

FWIW, Fev is our best forward option because he makes it all about him. In Saturdays first quarter, the team needed him to work hard and lead up for the half back line. A forward with any brains and team orientation would have worked ahead of his dual teaming and offered an upfield link to the forward line. Instead he wanted to stay within goal kicking range in the 50 and refused to present. The resultant structure saw our players with zero options coming out of defence.

Until he realises his role is more expansive than kicking goals, we'll remain a Fevola reliant, one dimensional team.

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Sign him up ASAP. Is a gun.


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The Hawks made the finals, yet ranked 16th for player payments, marginally below Carlton, the only other club that outlaid less than $8 million when all the extras were taken into account.

By reaching the second week of the finals, Hawthorn paid an extra $114,700 in finals match payments. Thus, in real terms, it was clearly behind even the Blues, who were bad enough to win just four games and receive a priority pick

    Sydney. 9.712 million
    Brisbane 9.25 - includes Voss back loaded contract
    Collingwood 8.899
    St Kilda 8.889
    Melbourne 8.827
    Essendon* 8.648
    Geelong 8.602
    Fremantle 8.537
    WCE 8.524
    Richmond 8.341
    Bulldogs 8.324
    North 8.245
    Adelaide 8.219
    Port 8.144
    Carlton 7.813
    Hawthorn 7.797

Apparently lots of youth will create cap space.

Fans question how we will fit Fev and Judd in the cap when we've lost the contracts of Kouta, Whitnall, Lappin, Teague, Mclaren from the above figures. Yet the Pies and Essendon* were respectively third and sixth for player payments last year and chasing Judd's signature.

Presumably with a big offer.

Both were above Port and Geelong who had more finals payments than the Filth. :?


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Just sign Fev up now. No questions, no delays. Two year deal with an option for a third if certain conditions are met. Done. Shouldn't be any questions asked.


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Well it seems rumours last year about us having addition cap room for another "quality" person where right. 8)
Isn't Fev going onto Veteran's list and Juddy's contract front loaded? :idea:


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