add Adelaide and Sydney to that list of will not win a premiership in the next 5 years, and remove Carlton and Richmond. Carlton is very young (the youngest list in the AFL) and will be top 4 very soon. Never know with Richmond, there are some good young kids, but they don't have a history of playing finals or winning premierships.

Right now Adelaide and Sydney are your making up the numbers teams. They're hard, disciplined, and mature (old). Both will play finals for the next couple of seasons yet but neither are a chance of actually winning the premiership. These 2 teams should definitely be in your list.

Mrs Caz, did you say dane was fairly smart???



are we talking about the same dane here???

Agreed dane - and I'm glad that you posted this - if not for any other reason than proving that Abaddon (as much as he would loathe to admit) can max positive about the Blues.

Now to get him to do it on TC, in front of Carlton supporters instead of the spankas that inhabit BF.