Mick....the paddock is outdated..you need a great clearance rate to beat the flood and other tactics similar. I agree with 50/50 you can have more success but my point is that aint always possible and you need marking talls who can take a grab when the flood is on and the paddock has the entire opposition herd grazing in it....a Brown, Reiwoldt,Tredrae ,Hall etc can still be dangerous even with poor midfield input..we cant have a CHF who is totally dependent on good delivery...its the good CHF..key position players who takes the marks against the run of play.
Lance will never be that player IMO...maybe if we can get a Brown then Lance can fill other roles but 500K a year for a player who needs it lace out..?????

A lot of your post makes sense Tyrant.

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that almost makes good sense Tyrant now to see if that can be implimented and Bingo forward problem solved as long as we get decent delivery in the forward line and the midfield know where to kick it.

Well it soulded like you made sense now just has to be put into action lol

Good for you Death.Absolutely agree regards Lance.Reckon Dennis needs to let him try it his way.What the bloody hell can you lose.Lance is a marvel at opening up the play for others.
We are all doom and gloom at the moment,but at least you have had a go Death.Sat down,nutted it out,and come up with an alternative.Might be a complete disaster but id sooner stuff up trying something than twiddling my thumbs and hope..........Always a tad outside left field our TFDeath.

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Denis Pagan.

He was outcoached yesterday.

But you did get me on the other one. I meant 2003 against North...

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Whilst picking over the corpse of a performance yesterday........
If T-Lo gets game next week it should be considered down payment for his brother.
To borrow from Billy's wife in City Slickers he need to go to Preston and "find his smile".
Having written this he'll put in a blinder.
I can't see dead people, but a can see Sporn, and DeLuca, would enjoy some "hey honey look at me" red time with a giant white ant on their chest.

...FEV - FF
WAITE - CHF
FISHER/Setanta - 3rd target
LAPPIN/BETTS/etc etc - around them
WHITNALL - anywhere he wants...

Love the thinking behind this. Lance set free would be of benefit because he's so creating. BUT, Lappin back into the backline (to be creative too) and someone else, medium-small to support Eddie at ground level.

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Is this because he has an injury, or has he stopped doing the work?

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For G-d's SAKE
What did you want him to do yesterday?

I suppose you blame Teague for not being able to stop Stafford as well!!!!!!

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the problem with Lance is he is like a credit card... after a while you have to start getting back into the black... hes been living off credit for a few years and he is one that is under the microscope when the team is down.
We need to see some deposits in the account.
So even if he it wasnt his fault that we lost again he hasnt been making deposits to bring us back into the black.. hes on a big wicket!!! He needs to perform like he would have to in any business environment.. Footy is the only business environment you can live as extravagently for so long as some of these guys have.

Its frustrating isnt it?
What do we want him to do???

Well Lance knows whats required and being just another rat on a sinking ship isnt enough... Give the man a bucket and let him bail some of the water out.!!!

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The problem that has been partly pointed out to some extent is the lack of space CAUSED BY PLAYERS ALL GOING TO THE SAME CONTEST, this only helps the defence, particularly if our forward pressure is poor.

The number of times that players have led to the same spot, the same flank, the same pocket and left the other flank/pocket wide open with no options anywhere near that space is ridiculous.

There was no one front and square yesterday either. Not taking marks in F50 is one problem but if you can't mark you get it off the ground - we didn't do that either. Midfielders, again, didn't work hard enough. Forward line, didn't work hard enough.

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Also we desperately miss players that can apply forward line pressure and actually keep the ball in the fwd 50. Like Hickmont & Hamill did in 99/2000. Where were the forced turnovers, chases, bumps, & TACKLES THAT STUCK in the fwd line on Sat.

But to me the other main thing it comes down to is our lack of height. When the ball came into their 50, we were forced to man up, when it came into ours, they could afford to zone off and away they went.

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I agree. Here's a quote taken from Bozman's Bullants match review in talkingbullants
http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB2/vi ... php?t=1997

Gorget about zoning off and forward pressure, lack of height.

WE COULDN'T and DIDN'T want to get the bloody ball!!! All the rest is secondary. Talk about game plans all you like - first option is get the bloody thing, second option, chase tackle and harrass the opposition till you get the bloody thing. Football is a terribly simple game. If you get it and weant it more than the opposition you win the game.

We didn't want it, nor did we try and get it anywhere near as much as what they did.

Complete lack of passion from our so-called stars. Whitnall was just ok, but as a backman!!

I hope one thing happened after the game. And that is that as Dennis was scanning the room he singled out Fevola and said to him in no uncertain terms - "You owe this team 10 next week Fev!!!"

Laguna...sure you're not Pagan???

Going to be intersting against the cats...not a lot of big forwards but one small goal kicker out (Chapman)....containing Ablett form kicking goals will be tricky but doable...may mean we can actually have a forward structure of Whitts, Fev (right in the goal square), Betts (please stay down- even lead into space). ..
we'll see...here's hoping for a good game!

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Gee Tyrant speaks sense
Hope the clubs reading this post and a few others on this forum at the moment. Couldnt do any harm...
What are our connections to the club like now with this new forum btw?