sinbagger wrote:
I listened to most of it, including all the bits about Carlton, I think you should all listen to that last ten minutes or so, some very interesting and insightful stuff.
Stuff that really resonated with me
- everyone cheering and clapping Voss and the players after the prelim loss in Brisbane. He was surprised the players weren’t more gutted and that the occasion was celebrated immediately. As soon as the siren went I walked out if the ground, I didn’t clap and cheer Voss or the players. I was absolutely gutted and just wanted to get away. I felt bad for that for a long while but I don’t now, it was a celebration of mediocrity, it shouldn’t have been so warm and fuzzy for the players. Russel is right.
- the wins at the end of 23 was some of the most exciting and enjoyable times he had at any club
- he believes that team should have won and could easily have gone onto winning the GF
- he believes we are only a few players away from challenging again and that we don’t need to blow the list. “It can change very quickly with a few players in the right roles”. A fast mid, a fast and skilful HFF, and a fast and skilled hbf. He nominated Walsh, Martin and Marchbank in 23 as triggers.
- because of all the injuries we were actually very fresh in the final last year and the group should have really challenged the lions.
- Carlton is “all about business”, whereas hawthorn are really a tight family. He doesn’t see this as a negative for Carlton, it’s just the way Carlton are different and it shouldn’t stop us having success.
He didn’t slam the club, that’s just people looking for headlines. He was very balanced and forthright. Lots of positives, more so than the cherry picked negative headlines.
Andrew Russell is a seasoned professional.
What he shares with us about the club should be treated with respect. He’s not the enemy. It’s obvious he made great relationships with Carlton people.
The main points for me were:
1. We got use to losing. And I ask why?
2. Players didn’t choose to fight to win the Prelim.
3. We are not that far away. 3 players improved our game in 2023.
Russell didn’t lay blame on coach. He blamed a losing culture.
Amazing how one player in each zone is all it took to be good to unbeatable.
He didn’t blame 2 rucks for loss.