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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2025 11:02 pm 
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Effes wrote:
The three small Carlton forwards had the worst disposal efficiency on the ground.

White 50%
F Evans 41%
Motlop 28%


Put them all in the bin. Imposters


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2025 11:04 pm 
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so ... we've lost 5 games this season when winning at HT and lose it all in the 4th.

that's a disturbing trend that's imo on coaching. maybe fitness, but mostly coaching. they adjust, move magnets at HT and we can't hang with them.


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2025 11:07 pm 
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I'm not sure I've seen a ruck try less after the initial contest than Pitto did tonight, was he injured?

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2025 11:07 pm 
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I'm not sure I've seen a ruck try less after the initial contest than Pitto did tonight, was he injured?



he's played his whole career like he's injured.


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2025 11:08 pm 
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That was just watching a very slow & painful death. Even the long period of the game where we were a goal in front, Syd still looked the better side.

We folded mentally. Where were the experienced players to calm the side the flower down?

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2025 11:09 pm 
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Boyd concussion confirmed, thanks for the chest pass and all the best


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2025 11:11 pm 
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Being a Carlton supporter is like being a young girl at a Jeffeey Epstein party, you don’t really want to be there and you know you’re going to get flowered by someone you don’t want to be flowered by.


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2025 11:12 pm 
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bender wrote:
This is not all in Voss. This is part to player development, but also to the players own intestinal fortitude.

Aside from the Adelaide d bacle, we have led.for substantial parts of every game,.only to shit ourselves when smart teams turn up the pressure

These players have the mental toughness of Kleenex, and are far too comfortable giving conditional efforts.

Curnow, despite kicking a few, is two half arses and temperamental. He can @#$%&! off. At least Harry, for his faults will runn up and down the ground all day

And motlop.... His uncle says he is hard done by???? He does sweet @#$%&! all and wants to get no shit over it???? He can do one, a long with Evans

McGovern set the standard, off to hospital for a big hit but is completely fine??? Soft for an AFL player, yet comes straight back back in

SOS, weiters and Cripps are the only players who can say they always give 100%, with maybe Ollie behind them, but he has too many flaws

Can't see viss surviving this year when TDK goes, but it's not all his fault, the players have a lot to answer for

Want the big money on an easy ride,.like the Murphy days


bender wrote:
This is not all in Voss. This is part to player development, but also to the players own intestinal fortitude.

Aside from the Adelaide d bacle, we have led.for substantial parts of every game,.only to shit ourselves when smart teams turn up the pressure

These players have the mental toughness of Kleenex, and are far too comfortable giving conditional efforts.

Curnow, despite kicking a few, is two half arses and temperamental. He can @#$%&! off. At least Harry, for his faults will runn up and down the ground all day



There's a post in the rumour thread on Big Footy saying that while the playing group are connected, there's a big difference in commitment and hunger across the group and mentally they're a fragile bunch...
Definitely shows on field.

Re Curnow he'd be one of the players with the lowest footy IQ around.


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2025 11:14 pm 
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Voss had a shocker tonight.

Sydney isolated a tall forward in the goal square all night keeping Weitering away and creating space inside 50 ... hence they have running shots at goal. A great way to play in those conditions as it opens up opportunities. Voss plans around having set shots to win games.


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2025 11:15 pm 
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missnaut wrote:
bender wrote:
This is not all in Voss. This is part to player development, but also to the players own intestinal fortitude.

Aside from the Adelaide d bacle, we have led.for substantial parts of every game,.only to shit ourselves when smart teams turn up the pressure

These players have the mental toughness of Kleenex, and are far too comfortable giving conditional efforts.

Curnow, despite kicking a few, is two half arses and temperamental. He can @#$%&! off. At least Harry, for his faults will runn up and down the ground all day

And motlop.... His uncle says he is hard done by???? He does sweet @#$%&! all and wants to get no shit over it???? He can do one, a long with Evans

McGovern set the standard, off to hospital for a big hit but is completely fine??? Soft for an AFL player, yet comes straight back back in

SOS, weiters and Cripps are the only players who can say they always give 100%, with maybe Ollie behind them, but he has too many flaws

Can't see viss surviving this year when TDK goes, but it's not all his fault, the players have a lot to answer for

Want the big money on an easy ride,.like the Murphy days


bender wrote:
This is not all in Voss. This is part to player development, but also to the players own intestinal fortitude.

Aside from the Adelaide d bacle, we have led.for substantial parts of every game,.only to shit ourselves when smart teams turn up the pressure

These players have the mental toughness of Kleenex, and are far too comfortable giving conditional efforts.

Curnow, despite kicking a few, is two half arses and temperamental. He can @#$%&! off. At least Harry, for his faults will runn up and down the ground all day



There's a post in the rumour thread on Big Footy saying that while the playing group are connected, there's a big difference in commitment and hunger across the group and mentally they're a fragile bunch...
Definitely shows on field.

Re Curnow he'd be one of the players with the lowest footy IQ around.


yeah there is ... there's a bunch of guys who don't do what's necessary. happy to get paid and call it a day. win or lose they get paid the same.


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2025 11:18 pm 
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missnaut wrote:
bender wrote:
This is not all in Voss. This is part to player development, but also to the players own intestinal fortitude.

Aside from the Adelaide d bacle, we have led.for substantial parts of every game,.only to shit ourselves when smart teams turn up the pressure

These players have the mental toughness of Kleenex, and are far too comfortable giving conditional efforts.

Curnow, despite kicking a few, is two half arses and temperamental. He can @#$%&! off. At least Harry, for his faults will runn up and down the ground all day

And motlop.... His uncle says he is hard done by???? He does sweet @#$%&! all and wants to get no shit over it???? He can do one, a long with Evans

McGovern set the standard, off to hospital for a big hit but is completely fine??? Soft for an AFL player, yet comes straight back back in

SOS, weiters and Cripps are the only players who can say they always give 100%, with maybe Ollie behind them, but he has too many flaws

Can't see viss surviving this year when TDK goes, but it's not all his fault, the players have a lot to answer for

Want the big money on an easy ride,.like the Murphy days


bender wrote:
This is not all in Voss. This is part to player development, but also to the players own intestinal fortitude.

Aside from the Adelaide d bacle, we have led.for substantial parts of every game,.only to shit ourselves when smart teams turn up the pressure

These players have the mental toughness of Kleenex, and are far too comfortable giving conditional efforts.

Curnow, despite kicking a few, is two half arses and temperamental. He can @#$%&! off. At least Harry, for his faults will runn up and down the ground all day



There's a post in the rumour thread on Big Footy saying that while the playing group are connected, there's a big difference in commitment and hunger across the group and mentally they're a fragile bunch...
Definitely shows on field.

Re Curnow he'd be one of the players with the lowest footy IQ around.


Thanks for making the night more depressing!!!! :razz:

The club needs to part with the less hungry. I bet curnow and McGovern are right on top of that list

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2025 12:03 am 
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For at least 5 years
We have lacked a player that can explode out the front of stoppages
For at least 5 years we have lacked a 3rd forward
For at least 5 years we have lacked a smart small forward

And you know what there is zero coming through that can fill these roles.

Recruitment is the issue

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2025 12:12 am 
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Boyd came on at half time played totally out of position had a bigger impact than Motlop Evans and White

He then gets knocked out not one player came over to see him. No one called for the game to be stopped and no one took it up to Armarty for doing it.

This on a day we were playing for Wallsy

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2025 12:54 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Boyd came on at half time played totally out of position had a bigger impact than Motlop Evans and White

He then gets knocked out not one player came over to see him. No one called for the game to be stopped and no one took it up to Armarty for doing it.

This on a day we were playing for Wallsy

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It’s just flower depressing.


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2025 1:08 am 
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The truth is;

Like today we just can’t play 4 quarters. It’s very rare if we do. We’ve proven that time and time again.
Also, like today, we waste so many opportunities i50 when we are dominating and can’t take advantage of our momentum’s. Teams know if they put numbers back and hold us , we will crumble soon and they will take their chances.
When our midfield is dominated, we don’t have the tools to defend and the flood gates open. Hence why teams can score successive quick goals. This happened in the 2nd half today and with Pittonet being absolutely smashed, SoS taken out of the game, it was only a matter of time.
Looks like SOS has become so valuable to us back there in 10 games, it’s laughable. TdK might be the 2nd most important player to us now. This is a real concern.
Lastly, we don’t play for each other. As a team we don’t have enough mongrel, and we don’t protect each other. So many teams know we are mentally weak and they can easily put us off our game. You see other teams beating us up, yapping at us and even bullying us. It’s become that obvious.

I just don’t understand how they can keep holding their heads high, thinking they’re good at what they do.


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2025 5:32 am 
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That was putrid.

Curnow has the FIGJAM about him. His Jesus Christ Superstar celebrations shit me no end.

Motlop needs to check his lineage as he is the most classless indigenous player I have ever seen. No awareness or smarts whatsoever. Elijah was seriously off last night. I see another break with MH issues coming up.

Depressing game all around. No fire from these players. They don’t give a shit, why should we?

RIP Wally - you had more passion for the jumper than these guys ever have or ever will.


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2025 6:52 am 
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Voss has been a big failure

Voss game plan which there is only one is a failure

Voss coaching system has cooked our players for 1 example is Walsh
before Voss took over he was just a pure running machine mainly playing as a outside runner
Voss turned him into a inside mid getting him bashed up to a point where he is a cripple

The only player on list capable of sustaining the game style Is Cripps and the other was Kennedy who Voss said he wasn’t good enough for our midfield

Sooner we move Voss on and trade a few so called stars on the better of we will be


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2025 7:30 am 
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bender wrote:
Curnow, despite kicking a few, is two half arsesd


A full arse then.

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2025 7:33 am 
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That was putrid.

RIP Wally - you had more passion for the jumper than these guys ever have or ever will.


I think this is why I am so mad still this morning.


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2025 9:57 am 
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I’m pretty annoyed about the Charlie hate on this thread. I thought he was great last night and totally busted his gut. He wears his heart on his sleeve and gets pumped after a goal. Would you rather he do the opposite ? Also, he should have had four goals. The umps robbed us again when they let Blakey come off his line too early to spoil Charlie, when he played in like he usually does and surely would have snapped a goal, if he wasn’t smothered. No one here has brought this up yet. We should have been two goals closer on the board, with the Heeney goal that shouldn’t have been.


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