I noticed your post re dead set think O'Farrell is ready to step up.

He's not big and strong, but he's a damn good footballer and bloody good mark. He wouldnt be out of place.

One huge preseason and who knows.....this kid is a keeper.

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Missed the game
Obviously a poor day

Something has to give at the end of this season

We have fallen into the trap again of investing too much salary into too few players

It has come at the expense of player depth in the squad

As soon as we suffer a few injuries, we get exposed

There is little quality youth in the seconds. Bringing Doherty back in the team smacked of desperation. He is finished.

May mean we allow TDK to go and find multiple players that meet our needs.

I think we are a muddling side at best and it is time to take a step back and regenerate the list

[quote="WOW"]Something has to give at the end of this season

We have fallen into the trap again of investing too much salary into too few players

It has come at the expense of player depth in the squad

As soon as we suffer a few injuries, we get exposed

There is little quality youth in the seconds. Bringing Doherty back in the team smacked of desperation. He is finished.

May mean we allow TDK to go and find multiple players that meet our needs.

I think we are a muddling side at best and it is time to take a step back and regenerate the list[/
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And you have to do it at the end of this year
With Tasmania coming in
I’m happy to have DeKoning go and with a big salary get a top 5 pick compo
Ruckman are disposable and O’Keefe can develop
Happy to trade McKay
If we pay half his salary at least it frees up a players wage
That’s 2 first rounders and Jagga Smith
And there is talent in the lower leagues
Find them and recruit them for a bag of chips
Clearly list management has been poor
No depth
If we don’t do this we are going to be average at best for the next few years

I have to agree with these last two posts, there was a good article on Hawthorn in the age today, how they’ve been ruthless in moving players if there’s a hint that they’re clogging the list. They’ve moved some in too early but overall they’ve faired very well not holding onto good players too long with sentimentality. They’ve contrast with this Essendon* holding on too long to layers but we aren’t that far behind, Essendon* are just worse.

Watching the twos we have O’Keefe and Pittonet running around doing a good job. We can afford to let TDK go for a couple of good draft picks. Same with Harry, we have Young, Lemmey and O’Keefe who could all fill his role at minimum pay while we get a few good draft picks. Docherty’s time has come too.

We give too many chances to players like Acres, McGovern, and Motlop.

We need to be ruthless in team selection and ruthless in not holding onto too many highly paid players.

This from BF by one of the ITK posters;

Club not budging on offer to TDK
Assumption at this stage is that he is leaving and taking the $$ elsewhere.
Mentioned in the media during the week that TDK's contract negotiations is impacting other Carlton player deals... however it's also holding up a potential deal for a very good player that have lined up and can only bring in if TDK leaves.
This year the club will look to strengthen the list management team.

If true, good to see some logic being applied.

Without a first rounder this year we've got to trade to get an early pick.

It's H for me, rather keep TDK if we can.

I reckon Hudson O’ Keefe is going ok
Has gone past Pitto
Judging by the stats today only Binns ,O’Keefe and Boyd deserve a game on Friday night

Problem is that TDk is a restricted free agent. Depends where we finish, we won’t get anywhere the value that he is worth. The money thrown around he is worth 2 first rounders and we won’t get that.

We are hampered unless we match and trade.

O’Keefe mainly played as a key forward and relieving ruck, Pittonet was much more dominant in the ruck than O’Keefe and played very well. O’Keefe really impressed as a key forward. The problem is that we already have Harry and Young as options for key fwd/second ruck, and I don’t think O’Keefe is any better than Young yet in that role as Young has been in good form in that role this year. So not sure what role you’d have Hudson play if you selected him as the only tall role open is as key defender replacing Young.

Agree on Binns and Boyd, Lucas and Ben also went ok, but didn’t demand a promotion.

I watched the Magoo's today and everything you have stated is spot on Sin's . Binns just keeps finding the football and on that alone he should get a go . Trouble withs Binns though is he doesn't attack the ball hard enough and that alone will get you in the bad books with Voss . All the same , I would give him a go rather than die wondering whether he has the kahunas or not . Boydy , geez he's playing angry . Seems to be getting in a lot of blue's . Probably the frustration of playing in the seconds . I"ll take my hat off to HOK coz he has come on in leaps and bounds with his Achilles heal in overhead marking . Improved out of sight in this aspect of his game .

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I agree with both posts above….
OKeefes marking has gone to another level I think because he’s stronger and fitter but moreso because he’s moving around, not standing on a spot.but…..

Pitto is a heavier set ruckman who can compete with the Marshalls, Darcy’s, OReillys Nankervis types, and I don’t think OKeefe is at that stage yet,

I thought of Crusader watching the VFL. I thought he looked more capable than ever. I’d like to see him Fwd- Ruck if Young was needed in defense or ruck.

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just a Question ,charlie do we trade him while he still has value and get a couple of early picks ,i just don't trust his legs anymore i dont want same scenario in 26 ??????

Just an answer… No. @#$%&! off.

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Simple answer to all of this is No. including salary into too few. Offers from others were much, much more.
Problem is we delisted our depth and now find ourselves exposed with kids not ready.
I’m not going to name the players delisted and traded but they were our depth.
Just sh1t management……either drafting, developing, trading, etc.

Spot on.

Surround Charlie with players with the right tools, in form and hungry for success, and his value to the team is immense.

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wow charlie stays move on

I just watched the Fox show The Midweek tackle.
Motlop keen to stay and a contract will be done.
Newman will not be put on the long term injury list and a new contract will be done sooner rather than later.
Kemp will wait until later in the year.

Hope we don’t wait too long for Kemp and allow someone to swoop. I’ll be pissed.