Traveller86 wrote:
diesel95 wrote:
Traveller86 wrote:
Molly wrote:
Thought I would head in here and read people’s views on the game.
I live in Brisbane, and see enough of the Lions (both live and on tv) to have formed an opinion of them as too mentally soft to win a flag. My view is they have some front runners who don’t like it when the heat goes on them. I’d have Charlie Cameron and Cam Rayner high up in this category. And while Dunkley has added toughness around the ball, they are still not powerful enough in there. Ashcroft is a big loss. While they have some excellent footballers (I love Zac Bailey), I would be surprised to see them win a flag. I just think they are a slight rung below what is required.
All of the above is relevant to the discussion on accuracy. I agree they missed shots and that iallowed us to win. But to think of it as luck…. well, I am a bit different. I am more with CK95. I think in that second half we had got into their heads. And to contrast the teams, we are mentally tough. It’s just that as fans who have been through the last 30 years, we are reluctant to acknowledge it. But we are the side who came back from 16th (or whatever) on the ladder to make the finals. We are the side who beat Melbourne and Collingwood in the H&A last year with significant players missing. We are the side that came back from a putrid first half away versus Gold Coast. We are the side who won a final against Melbourne with one last frantic roll of the dice.
I just think that when the game was there to be won, we were the side which was mentally tougher. I used to watch Hawthorn teams in the 1980s and the Lions three-peat teams do the same thing. They always knew they could get you, and they preyed on that weakness. We aren’t in that category until we can win a flag. But this side has come through enough adversity to be the next best thing. And I just think the Lions found out the hard way on Friday night.
Hipwood is a liability and they should trade him while he has any currency.
Hipwood played a great GF and finals series. had the pleasure of a Premiership medal being hung round his neck. knockers gonna knock aren’t they?
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Apart from his fluke goal in the GF, what did he do in that game? He also fell on his ass before the kick and still fluked it - says more about the Swans' pathetic defending that day.
- 5 kicks, 4 handballs (all uncontested)
- 3 marks
- 1 tackle
Now he wasn't a liability on the day but that wasn't hard now was it given the opposition?
He's a spud who's been carried by his teammates for his years.
He's also a premiership player.
Both can be true.
ok Fagan must be dumb as flowers then. has the best list in the AFL with depth we envy and he keeps playing this “spud”. when will Fages learn football?
Remember Earl Spaulding? some Blues supporters consider it the worst trade ever getting him across. terrible stats, almost never marked it in his first few seasons with us, but Parko never stopped singing his praises for making a contest as a true CHF on the arc. eventually he even managed to kick straight and kick goals. his role was never so underrated by the coaches though.
Hipwood is that kind of player in that he’s physically strong and big bodied presence on the arc. also can lead up from goal sq or to the wing boundary for forward play.
makes him a tough matchup, can’t be left to a medium-tall defender or tall midfielder or he’ll take ten marks and be in scoring chains all day long. i don’t understand the contempt he attracts just because he’s not Jeremy Cameron or Charlie Curnow (who hasn’t exactly set the game alight in a prelim or semi final yet for that matter)
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Hipwood played injured in all 4 Finals games, and a few rior in the H&A. 