i've watched all the games either live or on tv. lots his body language when the ball hasn't been delivered the way he likes? his lack of 2nd effort and doing the team things - like chasing down a player or space? as the season has gone on, he's gone for goals with a way higher level of difficulty than the team thing and setting it up to someone better positioned. i have lost count of how many plays he's given up on, when he feels like he's been fouled or dropped a mark?

even hodge gave him a roast about bombs away rather than team things ... so if that guy, who doesn't watch all of our games sees it, i surely can't be the only one who's noticed all of this?

surely.



last year after he sealed the coleman in the 1st qtr against gws, he literally didn't touch the ball again? i'm getting those vibes from him this season.

haha ... what evidence? what statistics or data did you offer up? you once again just gave an opinion, and jump on anyone who doesn't share it.

maybe you chose the most apt user name in the history of the interwebs

Criticism of the way he's been playing is fair, but he's never been fantastic at chasing etc and he does drop his bundle when he's getting scragged for no reward. He strikes me as someone who plays on instinct which is why he wheels and unloads so often. Fantastic when it comes off, not so much when he's off target.




Curnow kicked his 3rd and last goal of the match 11min 35sec into the 3rd quarter.
Carlton kicked two more goals for the remainder of the match (Durden and Fisher kicked one each in the last) vs the Giants' seven goals. One way traffic.

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that's the bit i don't get. he grew up playing in the midfield and there's still guys at the club and in the media who say he's got a tank and skills and is good enough to play in the middle at afl level.

but you watch him play, he doesn't look like he can?


don't get me wrong hey, he's one of my favourite players, but this season, for me, he's been in cruise mode and barely shifted out of 3rd gear.

I quoted your own words back to you, showing that you were arguing against yourself. What stats and data do I need to backup the fact that you said what you said?

You’re right it was opinion, your opinion and not mine. I’m not arguing with your opinion, I’m just highlighting that your opinion changes with the wind, so you attack me and call me names? Then say I’m the one that can’t cope with other opinions? Take a good look at yourself mate.

are you even speaking english, anymore? haha i have no idea what you're on about.

I’ll type slower for you next time then shall I?

caught the last bit of the Top-Two-contender** vs crows tonight and rode Crows home for a four goal to one last 15 minutes and an enjoyable upset** steal of the game listening to tripleM.

they were talking about a HTB decision and/or the recent changes to interpretation. Sounded like Dunstall (maybe) said “now there’s an example of a player taking two steps (with the ball ) then being tackled and not disposing of the ball correctly and it isn’t payed and yet we have all these tackles of players with sono prior opportunity being pinged (then gave an example or two from tonight’s game)

one of the other commentators drolly states “I actually have no idea anymore”. and that was that.

AFL house gets a lot right but sometimes they go off the deep end and WAY too many players are getting cheap frees lurking and delaying tackles on opponents by half a second to make its seem like there was prior. we got pinged a tonne for early in the season and then seemed to wise up a bit to it.

for the players taking the game on this is really depressing i would imagine. scraggers can wrack up possessions and nullify much superior opponents. well done AFL can’t wait for the seasons end when club officials and coaches have more latitude for honest opinions about this.


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Our loss aint looking so bad now . Dogs flog the Cats on there own dunghill . Fair effort . Bont , Libba , Treloar did the damage . Geez , Treloar would have to be the best " third banana " midfielder in the caper surely .

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the dogs are a real problem

lobbe shut down cameron in a way i've not seen before. and they still have jones to come back for finals if they make it.

Basing your opinion on two games.
They are horribly inconsistent

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From memory last year, they started off badly, picked it up then faded and just missed finals (because we lost to GWS haha).

i hear you

one big thing tho, is they moved lobbe to defense. that has changed their whole look. no longer too tall in the F50, and they've found their second banana to jones when he's back (which is in time for the last 2 rounds and finals.)

so maybe with that, they're not going to be as inconsistent? and that run they went on in 2016, if they summon that...

I think Dogs are easily capable of winning the flag. Their list wants for nothing, and Jamara looks ready to rip the league apart. Every year I'm perplexed as to why they are not finishing higher and in the conversation for the flag. If they pull it together and play their best footy I think they have what it takes.

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