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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:21 am 
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number 10 is cursed wrote:
Has the MVP voting for this season been wound up after last week??


Apologies for the delay... viewtopic.php?f=21&t=34923


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:22 am 
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need to replace Jamison, Rowe, Henderson, Tutt, Yarran, White, Carazzo. They are not up to it.



SPOT ON!!!!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:39 am 
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Our reserves kicked 2 goals for the entire game


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:16 am 
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We gave Liam Jones three years and only offered Waite one year guaranteed. Another example of our list management gurus at work.



more evidence which can only be rectified by mcKay being fired immediately.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:29 pm 
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chelodina wrote:
naive.

We have seen ripple effects of losing Betts.

Waite is no leader, but to balance 1 v 2 year contract for someone who plays a Key Position role in the side and to lose him for nothing was a poor decision.



..Rubbish.. ..at his age, with his injury history,, one year contracts were the way to go.. ..it's good enough for Judd, but Waite needs better..?.. ..c'mon..

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:19 pm 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
chelodina wrote:
naive.

We have seen ripple effects of losing Betts.

Waite is no leader, but to balance 1 v 2 year contract for someone who plays a Key Position role in the side and to lose him for nothing was a poor decision.



..Rubbish.. ..at his age, with his injury history,, one year contracts were the way to go.. ..it's good enough for Judd, but Waite needs better..?.. ..c'mon..


It has worked out really well for us...... We are paying Liam Jones his salary----- great choice


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:26 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Dukes wrote:
We gave Liam Jones three years and only offered Waite one year guaranteed. Another example of our list management gurus at work.



more evidence which can only be rectified by mcKay being fired immediately.


This x1000000000000000000000000000. Nailed it. Spot on. Why the @#$%&! is McKay still there? We're finishing bottom three and Hawthorn, reigning premiers the last two years and probably still favourites for a three-peat, are in a better position in Total Player Payments than we are.

But don't worry folks. Malthouse is gone. We're now following a solid, robust process to nominate a new coach................................

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:48 pm 
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chelodina wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
chelodina wrote:
naive.

We have seen ripple effects of losing Betts.

Waite is no leader, but to balance 1 v 2 year contract for someone who plays a Key Position role in the side and to lose him for nothing was a poor decision.



..Rubbish.. ..at his age, with his injury history,, one year contracts were the way to go.. ..it's good enough for Judd, but Waite needs better..?.. ..c'mon..


It has worked out really well for us...... We are paying Liam Jones his salary----- great choice


..two separate issues entirely..

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:15 am 
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robertbb wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Dukes wrote:
We gave Liam Jones three years and only offered Waite one year guaranteed. Another example of our list management gurus at work.



more evidence which can only be rectified by mcKay being fired immediately.


This x1000000000000000000000000000. Nailed it. Spot on. Why the @#$%&! is McKay still there? We're finishing bottom three and Hawthorn, reigning premiers the last two years and probably still favourites for a three-peat, are in a better position in Total Player Payments than we are.

But don't worry folks. Malthouse is gone. We're now following a solid, robust process to nominate a new coach................................

Buddy's salary had a lot to do with that.
Players will play for less if they know they are going to play finals and probably win a flag.

If we want players to play for no glory and just the money, we have to pay overs. It's a simple matter of supply and demand. It's no co-incidence that Swans, Hawks and Geelong are the ones most active at trade time. Geelong must have a lot of space in their cap if they're going for Henderson, Selwood and Dangerfield. They either have it or they will make it by getting rid of players that are good players on good money but surplus to requirements. Good clubs can cherry pick. We have seventeen spots up for grabs.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:49 am 
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Did we seriously give Liam Jones a 3 year deal? Who is responsible for that decision? The guy was on the point of delisting and couldn't get a game at the Dogs, how could we give him anything other than an incentive based yearly contract.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:54 am 
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robertbb wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Dukes wrote:
We gave Liam Jones three years and only offered Waite one year guaranteed. Another example of our list management gurus at work.



more evidence which can only be rectified by mcKay being fired immediately.


This x1000000000000000000000000000. Nailed it. Spot on. Why the @#$%&! is McKay still there? We're finishing bottom three and Hawthorn, reigning premiers the last two years and probably still favourites for a three-peat, are in a better position in Total Player Payments than we are.


You're wrong guys. McKay has reviewed his own performance and has done a great job. The additions of Jones, Thomas, Tutt, Dick were what we needed to improve our age demographic which we all know is more important than any footballing ability. Plus we need to pay them more to come to Carlton because in fairness why else would you come to us. So in the end he won't be going anywhere. With MLG, Trigg & McKay in charge what could go wrong? :yikes:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:10 pm 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
chelodina wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
chelodina wrote:
naive.

We have seen ripple effects of losing Betts.

Waite is no leader, but to balance 1 v 2 year contract for someone who plays a Key Position role in the side and to lose him for nothing was a poor decision.



..Rubbish.. ..at his age, with his injury history,, one year contracts were the way to go.. ..it's good enough for Judd, but Waite needs better..?.. ..c'mon..


It has worked out really well for us...... We are paying Liam Jones his salary----- great choice


..two separate issues entirely..


How? We let Waite, a forward, go and recruit Jones, a forward.

apples with apples


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:34 pm 
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Yeah one old mouldy rotten apple full of worms with one you found in the bin of a herpes clinic with a bite out of it


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lol


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:45 am 
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Just watched the second quarter replay.
When they move it and run they look OK.
Casboult and Hendo bumped into each other twice in marking contests and the ball went free. They have to sort that out regardless of who is in the team next year.
I thought Boekhurst looked OK although he missed one really good chance to handball to a player running free and instead got tackled in the back and the momentum was lost. Nice mark. he'll play next week based on that bit I saw.
Everitt WTF with the around the corner from just outside the square. Drop punt every day from there but he went ahead and kicked an impossible one to make up for it.
Murphy seemed to be in it a lot. Cripps, Touhy, Buckley and White all seemed to stand out that quarter.

I'm a glass half full sort of person if I can be and if we can play one quarter of footy like that with half the team missing, things aren't as bad as they seem. We aren't in any danger of playing for a flag in the next year or two but some of the young kids have a basis to work with.

Henderson has lost the plot and his confidence I reckon. Yarran just doesn't seem to want to put on the afterburners at all.

Always next week. Looking for a spirited game from all concerned. An honourable loss will do me. I'm in tanking mode.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:28 am 
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sstormin123 wrote:
Yeah one old mouldy rotten apple full of worms with one you found in the bin of a herpes clinic with a bite out of it


Would eat a mouldy, worm-ridden apple over catching herpes anytime.

At least the mouldy apple gives you shits and you get over it. Unfortunately the herpes apple is just a big blister that just keeps coming back when you least expect it.


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Sorry to hear that.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:34 am 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
robertbb wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Dukes wrote:
We gave Liam Jones three years and only offered Waite one year guaranteed. Another example of our list management gurus at work.



more evidence which can only be rectified by mcKay being fired immediately.


This x1000000000000000000000000000. Nailed it. Spot on. Why the @#$%&! is McKay still there? We're finishing bottom three and Hawthorn, reigning premiers the last two years and probably still favourites for a three-peat, are in a better position in Total Player Payments than we are.


You're wrong guys. McKay has reviewed his own performance and has done a great job. The additions of Jones, Thomas, Tutt, Dick were what we needed to improve our age demographic which we all know is more important than any footballing ability. Plus we need to pay them more to come to Carlton because in fairness why else would you come to us. So in the end he won't be going anywhere. With MLG, Trigg & McKay in charge what could go wrong? :yikes:


MLG: Idiot that declares rebuild round 4 and gets all players off-side and underperforming.
Trigg: Idiot that oversaw the Tippett scandal and was shown the door at Adelaide.
McKay: Idiot that has been at the helm of the worst footy department in the comp by a country mile.

I honestly don't see how this could go right. But don't worry, we're going through "due process" to find a new coach.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:40 am 
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Does anyone actually know who's idea it was to recruit Thomas Jones Dick & Tutt. Not only that, who approved those moves and the contracts?

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ThePsychologist wrote:
Does anyone actually know who's idea it was to recruit Thomas Jones Dick & Tutt. Not only that, who approved those moves and the contracts?


Malthouse, McKay and whoever our CEO was then.

Gleeson as the football director would be involved also I would've thought.


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