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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:21 am 
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I am all for playing the kids, but they need to be ready. No point playing them if they 1/ dont deserve a game and 2/ not physically ready.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:25 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:27 am 
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blueboy23 wrote:
Not sure Holman is ready yet, as for Graham, I have seen quite a few northern games, in those games i have seen, Graham has worked hard to get to the contest, made tackles, kicked a few goals, improved he's kicking from last year and has been in the best week in week out...
Most weeks he gathers 30 plus, yet curnow missed 8 weeks of footy then walks straight back in, I understand they are different type of players but please...
I believe mick has he's favourite players and Graham is not one of them. Let's see if Thomas gets dropped this year..
McLean is finished, give Graham a go and see if he can make it, if not then delist him but, he needs to be given an opportunity. Holman will get he's chance later on.
People saying players should earn their spot before handing out games, well look where we sit and certain players continue to get a free run, Graham has earned a chance, reward for effort...
Casboult better kick some goals, if not will he get dropped???
Does Warnock continue to battle on or does Wood deserve an opportunity???
McLean continues to play average footy at best yet he continues to get a game???
We are an average team, with average players getting games, give a kid an opportunity when he has worked hard, simple.
Let the rebuild begin and move average players on...
Reckon Temay will get a go before he is delisted????
Good luck Bell, i am sure you have earned your game this week... How was he's first game back last week???

We are an average team??? In what universe?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:01 pm 
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I am all for playing the kids, but they need to be ready. No point playing them if they 1/ dont deserve a game and 2/ not physically ready.


and what about the curnows and macleans who have helped us to 5 losses in a row?

why not ease graham and Holman in against sainters rather than allow curenows and macleansto have faux wins against weak opposition??

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:07 pm 
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Blue Beatle wrote:
Age wrote:
I am all for playing the kids, but they need to be ready. No point playing them if they 1/ dont deserve a game and 2/ not physically ready.


and what about the curnows and macleans who have helped us to 5 losses in a row?

why not ease graham and Holman in against sainters rather than allow curenows and macleansto have faux wins against weak opposition??


McLean o last legs, Curnow was in career best form before he broke his leg. Has only been back 2 weeks.

IMO he is integral to out team is Curnow


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:29 pm 
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Curnow was in career best form before he broke his leg. Has only been back 2 weeks.



Nah,
SAKC him straight away !


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:48 pm 
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Age wrote:
Blue Beatle wrote:
Age wrote:
I am all for playing the kids, but they need to be ready. No point playing them if they 1/ dont deserve a game and 2/ not physically ready.


and what about the curnows and macleans who have helped us to 5 losses in a row?

why not ease graham and Holman in against sainters rather than allow curenows and macleansto have faux wins against weak opposition??


McLean o last legs, Curnow was in career best form before he broke his leg. Has only been back 2 weeks.

IMO he is integral to out team is Curnow



I agree. Curnow was in sufficient form prior to breaking his leg to warrant his place now.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:05 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
grrofunger wrote:
bluehammer wrote:

the Mayne/Toshiba years .


:lol: :lol:



One of my kids has an old jumper with Toshiba Home Theatre on it. A reminder of a miserable past/present decade.


Same.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:56 am 
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I cant believe how little interest there is in this game.
I am going, have no expectations so i cant be left disappointed yet again.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:07 am 
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kezza wrote:
I cant believe how little interest there is in this game.
I am going, have no expectations so i cant be left disappointed yet again.


Let us all know what happens, Kezza!

:lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:19 am 
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carntheblues wrote:
Age wrote:
Blue Beatle wrote:
Age wrote:
I am all for playing the kids, but they need to be ready. No point playing them if they 1/ dont deserve a game and 2/ not physically ready.


and what about the curnows and macleans who have helped us to 5 losses in a row?

why not ease graham and Holman in against sainters rather than allow curenows and macleansto have faux wins against weak opposition??


McLean o last legs, Curnow was in career best form before he broke his leg. Has only been back 2 weeks.

IMO he is integral to out team is Curnow



I agree. Curnow was in sufficient form prior to breaking his leg to warrant his place now.

94 supercoach point avg too. Dont get that unless your getting the pill and fairly efficient / effective


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:25 am 
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By sounds of it, only a cpl kids might be worthy of a game.

What l want to see by the end of this season if a game plan can be implemented. After 2 seasons you expect the players to be playing to a successful game plan.

I know the mm smoke screen of bagging players and playing kids is high on the agenda now for him.

Without a game plan we got no hope in the future. I just don't know why people keep blaming the list. No list is good if they dont play to a game plan


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:48 am 
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By sounds of it, only a cpl kids might be worthy of a game.

What l want to see by the end of this season if a game plan can be implemented. After 2 seasons you expect the players to be playing to a successful game plan.

I know the mm smoke screen of bagging players and playing kids is high on the agenda now for him.

Without a game plan we got no hope in the future. I just don't know why people keep blaming the list. No list is good if they dont play to a game plan


:?:

If MM were asked at his presser what his game plan involved, how do you think he would answer?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:53 am 
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Blue Beatle wrote:
Age wrote:
I am all for playing the kids, but they need to be ready. No point playing them if they 1/ dont deserve a game and 2/ not physically ready.


and what about the curnows and macleans who have helped us to 5 losses in a row?

why not ease graham and Holman in against sainters rather than allow curenows and macleansto have faux wins against weak opposition??

Limited as he is Curnow is still our best run-with player

Carrazzo and MaClean are two that we can replace with kids and not lose too much imo

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:13 am 
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Happy that Mick has stuck with two of the worst players in the game at the moment....Brock and Carrots. I'm convinced that it's all a plan to get a crucial top 3 draft pick. If you keep playing those guys you cannot win games, whereas if you play youth with enthusiasm etc they might actually inspire their team mates to win games.

There maybe method in Mick's madness.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:16 am 
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bluedog wrote:
Goltzenberg wrote:
By sounds of it, only a cpl kids might be worthy of a game.

What l want to see by the end of this season if a game plan can be implemented. After 2 seasons you expect the players to be playing to a successful game plan.

I know the mm smoke screen of bagging players and playing kids is high on the agenda now for him.

Without a game plan we got no hope in the future. I just don't know why people keep blaming the list. No list is good if they dont play to a game plan


:?:

If MM were asked at his presser what his game plan involved, how do you think he would answer?

:?:


Play man on man, chip to a 3 on 1 contested mark on the boundary and turn over possession. Pretty straightforward.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:24 am 
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MIL wrote:
Happy that Mick has stuck with two of the worst players in the game at the moment....Brock and Carrots. I'm convinced that it's all a plan to get a crucial top 3 draft pick. If you keep playing those guys you cannot win games, whereas if you play youth with enthusiasm etc they might actually inspire their team mates to win games.

There maybe method in Mick's madness.


Prob right

McLean is cooked. He's been downright insipid. It's like watching a 90 year old in concrete boots

Carrazzo has had injuries but regardless it looks like Father Time is nigh and he's gifted goals early the last two weeks which is just no good from a leader

You could play kids and they bring energy but only so far as about 15 touches so I think the two cancel each other out

The predominant variable here is the list is shit

That's all you need to know watching Carlton play

Second to that Mick is trying to change the culture and it's a work in progress

Pissing off Waite and Garlett is a start

Brock and Carrots will be next but it prob won't happen in earnest til we have sufficient midfield stocks to come in and replace the geriatrics


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:26 am 
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Stone Free wrote:
bluedog wrote:
Goltzenberg wrote:
By sounds of it, only a cpl kids might be worthy of a game.

What l want to see by the end of this season if a game plan can be implemented. After 2 seasons you expect the players to be playing to a successful game plan.

I know the mm smoke screen of bagging players and playing kids is high on the agenda now for him.

Without a game plan we got no hope in the future. I just don't know why people keep blaming the list. No list is good if they dont play to a game plan


:?:

If MM were asked at his presser what his game plan involved, how do you think he would answer?

:?:


Play man on man, chip to a 3 on 1 contested mark on the boundary and turn over possession. Pretty straightforward.


Don't protect the kick in

Make sure you bomb the kick in from a behind

Handball to you team mate's feet

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:31 am 
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MIL wrote:
Happy that Mick has stuck with two of the worst players in the game at the moment....Brock and Carrots. I'm convinced that it's all a plan to get a crucial top 3 draft pick. If you keep playing those guys you cannot win games, whereas if you play youth with enthusiasm etc they might actually inspire their team mates to win games.

There maybe method in Mick's madness.

That's the commercial reality of the industry these days.


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