David Buttifant to Carlton (confirmed 18/9)

Big Kahuna Boot · **Posted:** Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:41 am

Nick wrote:

Buckley on radio last week mentioned they're bringing in a new fitness programme that will increase fitness of their players by 10-15%.

A parting shot at Buttifant and Malthouse.

Having said that, if they succeed, watch us chase that bloke in 5 years whilst they move on to something else :lol:

..interesting.. ..cos i was here when Malty had his team up in top 4 year after year, and then top 2, back to back grand finals, and a flag.. ..i saw with my own eyes [like plenty of others] how fit their team has been.. ..and through all that time, extreme fitness and work-rate is what held his gameplan together.. ..i don't think the fitness of the pies has ever been questioned.. ..perhaps under Bucks, some players [along with learning new gameplan] were not working hard enough.. ..and while it might look like a drop in fitness, perhaps it's also a drop in morale and so what we saw as great work and fitness under MM, is less so under Bucks.. ..what we do know, is the fitness regime didn't change much, so i think a drop off in effort is more to blame than any drop off in fitness, or drop off in staff's ability to get that fitness into the squad..

Trigger · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:06 am **Posts:** 1826

Big Kahuna Boot wrote:

Nick wrote:

Buckley on radio last week mentioned they're bringing in a new fitness programme that will increase fitness of their players by 10-15%.

A parting shot at Buttifant and Malthouse.

Having said that, if they succeed, watch us chase that bloke in 5 years whilst they move on to something else :lol:

..interesting.. ..cos i was here when Malty had his team up in top 4 year after year, and then top 2, back to back grand finals, and a flag.. ..i saw with my own eyes [like plenty of others] how fit their team has been.. ..and through all that time, extreme fitness and work-rate is what held his gameplan together.. ..i don't think the fitness of the pies has ever been questioned.. ..perhaps under Bucks, some players [along with learning new gameplan] were not working hard enough.. ..and while it might look like a drop in fitness, perhaps it's also a drop in morale and so what we saw as great work and fitness under MM, is less so under Bucks.. ..what we do know, is the fitness regime didn't change much, so i think a drop off in effort is more to blame than any drop off in fitness, or drop off in staff's ability to get that fitness into the squad..

The coward buckley blaming everyone bar himself, next he will be blaming the tea lady.Jolly was right.

Trigger · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:06 am **Posts:** 1826

Big Kahuna Boot wrote:

Nick wrote:

Buckley on radio last week mentioned they're bringing in a new fitness programme that will increase fitness of their players by 10-15%.

A parting shot at Buttifant and Malthouse.

Having said that, if they succeed, watch us chase that bloke in 5 years whilst they move on to something else :lol:

..interesting.. ..cos i was here when Malty had his team up in top 4 year after year, and then top 2, back to back grand finals, and a flag.. ..i saw with my own eyes [like plenty of others] how fit their team has been.. ..and through all that time, extreme fitness and work-rate is what held his gameplan together.. ..i don't think the fitness of the pies has ever been questioned.. ..perhaps under Bucks, some players [along with learning new gameplan] were not working hard enough.. ..and while it might look like a drop in fitness, perhaps it's also a drop in morale and so what we saw as great work and fitness under MM, is less so under Bucks.. ..what we do know, is the fitness regime didn't change much, so i think a drop off in effort is more to blame than any drop off in fitness, or drop off in staff's ability to get that fitness into the squad..

The coward buckley blaming everyone bar himself, next he will be blaming the tea lady.Jolly was right.

cimm1979 · **Posted:** Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:29 am

Big Kahuna Boot wrote:

Nick wrote:

Buckley on radio last week mentioned they're bringing in a new fitness programme that will increase fitness of their players by 10-15%.

A parting shot at Buttifant and Malthouse.

Having said that, if they succeed, watch us chase that bloke in 5 years whilst they move on to something else :lol:

..interesting.. ..cos i was here when Malty had his team up in top 4 year after year, and then top 2, back to back grand finals, and a flag.. ..i saw with my own eyes [like plenty of others] how fit their team has been.. ..and through all that time, extreme fitness and work-rate is what held his gameplan together.. ..i don't think the fitness of the pies has ever been questioned.. ..perhaps under Bucks, some players [along with learning new gameplan] were not working hard enough.. ..and while it might look like a drop in fitness, perhaps it's also a drop in morale and so what we saw as great work and fitness under MM, is less so under Bucks.. ..what we do know, is the fitness regime didn't change much, so i think a drop off in effort is more to blame than any drop off in fitness, or drop off in staff's ability to get that fitness into the squad..

This would match with Buckley's comments on poor culture and the state of the list, all [REDACTED] when he took over apparently.

The Pies must have been close to folding when Bucks took over, I heard they were looking at parachuting in Ron Barassi and Richard Colless and a cash bail-out from the AFL of $10mil had been organised.

Rexy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:46 am **Posts:** 28227

*BUMP*

Seriously, WTF ???

camel · **Posted:** Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:45 pm

Mick says we're fit. The on field evidence suggests otherwise. So if we are physically fit we must be mentally shot. Again.

Bluey44 · **Posted:** Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:52 pm

If you keep kicking it straight back to the opposition,
then you have to spend all your time chasing them around.

Can't do that all game, every game.

We need to keep possession

Rexy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:46 am **Posts:** 28227

How much are we paying this guy ?

I'm not sure we're getting value for money.

bondiblue · **Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:16 am

camelboy wrote:

Mick says we're fit. The on field evidence suggests otherwise. So if we are physically fit we must be mentally shot. Again.

Just watched the game again and we fought right to the end.

There's a big diffreence between fit and slow.

Brock is too slow for AFL, but has endurance. You need both at this level.
Carrazzo is slow and moves the ball slow too. Ditto above.
Hate to say but even Tuohy looks too slow for this level atm...as is Ellard,probably Graham, Cachia and even Curnow.

Of the abovementioned Curnow is special with his endurance and ability to close down and this year was able to get disposals and use them within his capability. Cant carry more than one of these types.

If Cripps is also on the slow side, he too seeens another special one with an extraordinary gift to extract and feed.

Swap 4 of the above for tougher and faster types and we have a different team and less focus on Buttifant.

cimm1979 · **Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:21 am

We are fitter than we were 3 months ago and that's all.

It's why we play better at the little dome.

pew1 · **Joined:** Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:58 pm **Posts:** 539

who are we kidding we are not fit and strong enough and slow players.So this pre season should start early nov and please no more overseas bullshit.

camel · **Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:29 pm

bondiblue wrote:

camelboy wrote:

Mick says we're fit. The on field evidence suggests otherwise. So if we are physically fit we must be mentally shot. Again.

Just watched the game again and we fought right to the end.

There's a big diffreence between fit and slow...

15 April was a while ago now. :thumbsup:

David Buttifant to Carlton (confirmed 18/9)

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