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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:13 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
i reckon the only thing kreuze misses is a good leap.

he has everything else.. hes ahead of most big guys in most other cataguories.

not a big jumper though.. but very good at ground level.. and the marking will come.
it started to come on the weekend... he wills himself


I'd agree witht that.

He doesn't get far off the ground. Heavy lug.

He did look good on the weekend as he went for his marks.
Hard to spoil him on a lead.

MM reckons they're doing a bit more goal kicking pratise this week so I hope it bodes well for Waite and Kreuzer.

I'll reserve my judgement on him till the end of the year.

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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:14 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
is it me or the older megan gets the more she looks like a horse... i reckon she likes sugar



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I'd much rather see Megan in Navy Blue.......

And not just in a sexual way either........ I seriously reckon she'd be better on-field playing than Lucas!

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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:27 am 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
DenimUndies wrote:
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
Handshakes has had a solid year to date, started strongly and his quieter games by his new standard have also still been solid.. ..and he's a smart footballer, this lack of pace is a myth, it holds true when he's not fit.. ..but running well, he gets plenty of time and space.. .... ..and a more open game actually ties into this for him.. ..interchange cap only further strengthens his running ability...


His pace is not a myth, he is very very slow!!


his perceived value remains whilst he can maintain sustained but slow running, if his knees get to the point where he cant sustain prolonged running then even his perceived value is gone. let him go to an interstate club where he can at least have a chance to play 1st ruck each week and give us a gun midfielder ( if there is one out there) win win... without going over old ground, i think we erred in taking him over cotchin, i suspect even you would take cotchin now in exchange for Kruiz, but also sure no club would swap cotchin for Kruiz today. end of story


..not sure if you quoted by mistake, but my thoughts on handshakes are about brock..

..but anyways, regarding krooz.. -- ..he seems over the knee injuries, i can't remember there being any talk of them being degenerative.. ..in fact, this year all season he hasnt had any strapping on them at all.. ..last season he reinjured them, and we played him for most of the season thru it.. ..thats bad club player management, not a knock on him.. ..if a club ruins a player, its hardly the player's fault.. ..ratts tried to save his career, and could have stuffed krooz up.. ..crazy thinking from club level..

..yes, cotchin is a good player.. ..would i, in todays time reverse the draft and pick him over krooz?, no.. ..some may scoff, but i'd still take krooz.. ..your ruckman is an integral part of the team, more important than 1 individual midfielder.. ..they contest the very first action, they set the standard and attitude.. ..a physical ruck is a big part of every prem team..

..top class mids are available every year, flag worthy rucks are not.. ..cotchin is good, but he's no judd/ablett.. ..and i reckon if you asked cotchin, he'd love to rove to krooz every week.. ..the acl set back krooz's development by at least 2 yrs.. ..on top of which. mids will develop quicker than talls anyway..

..it's interesting to note how many supporters under-rate Krooz, and yet ex-players can't talk highly enough of him..


apologies BK, i was in a hurry when I posted the above and didnt take care to quote correctly, if at all.... just on your points above, you make some valid arguments, I guess im just spewing that Kruiz hasnt fulfilled his potential as yet, or should I say the potential expected by supporterss. nonetheless I hope he ends up exceeding his own and everyone else's expectations. good luck to him... I would however jump at the chance for a pick in the Top 5 at the end of year draft and wouldn't shirk at him being used as trade bait if there is a willing taker. just dont see him as leader, a willing and teachable good natured human most certainly. but then again iv never met him so whatever I say is just pure speculation. :smile:


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 7:00 am 
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ColourMan wrote:
That concludes "Trading for Dummies 101".

Anything else you want explained?


:garthp: x 1000

Are you saying the Judd and Ablett scenarios were comparible? I notice you skipped over that. One was traded and the other was taken as an uncontracted player, for which his club were allocated compensation by the AFL. You're using that as your comparison, then claiming we ignored that....despite the fact it was three years away from happening :confused:

Oh, and for your benefit, Judd was traded and Ablett taken as an uncontracted player :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 8:39 am 
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..very few rucks of Krooz's age have fulfilled their potential [nicnat a scary proposition!!], especially after blowing out their knee.. .... ..in regards to krooz being a leader, very much so.. ..actually a bit surprised he's not in the leadership group, perhaps too humble..?.. ..the way he goes about his footy on field, and off field,, has leadership stamped all over it..

..if you looked at our list, and thought finals footy = be in the trenches with.. ..krooz is definitely up there in the first few picked.. ..if even half our list shared his attitude and professionalism, we'd be a lot further ahead..

..and he's not already talking about early retirement like the Cotch is.. ..if tigers won a flag in the next few years Cotch reckons he'd retire, citing concerns his body isnt able to withstand a full AFL carrer.. ..and he's still early 20's..

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