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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:15 am 
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It's an agenda being run by news writers. A subjective stance on an objective based issue that every man and his dig including the AFL knew would be the logical outcome and to be frank it doesn't/didn't matter because it has served the greater objective of ie an evening of the competition. The AFL would be furious at present because the leaking of damning information by MFC past and present officials leaves it no choice but to eventually be seen to take a clear stance on the issue. IMO the AFL would have been happy to let all the allegations fade away over time. Had it not been for several opportunistic over moralistic news writers and several (lots apparently) silly MFC officials (past & present) making it so damn tangible publicly (how silly of the MFC coach at the time to drag his players into the issue by pre disposing them to the likely tactics ) . The morals of the story are 1) the current AFL tanking issue is a direct result of AFL strategy 2) The current MFC tanking issue is a direct result of MFC Management/leadership 3) Brendan Fevola's is right , he was involved in tanking.... his own career.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:25 am 
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"Carlton admits Brendan Fevola tried not to win"

This bloke is now nothing more than a 'dial a quote'.

The cheek he has when on so many occasions he had a care factor zero approach to a game.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:34 am 
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http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6397614537

Carlton made it hard to win, says Brendan Fevola

That's the headline of the story but I love this part just a little further down:

In his autobiography, the controversial forward also revealed:

HOW he ended up in "The Nuthouse".


That should just about do it for Fev, I think.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:48 am 
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Perhaps the Fevolas could start a new business venture, Dial An Idiot.
Either one could take calls.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:43 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Tanking is when you drop down for a year or 2 to top up with picks
Not when you have been sitting on the bottom for years and years and trying to build a list
It the sides that slide quickly and bounce back up again to the finals the following year they should look at


THIS



Double THIS

Collingwood did it to grab Pendlebury and Thomas
WCE did it to grab Nic Nat and so on....so on is a damn good player.


IMO the most blatant example of tanking was the Collingwood one to get Pendleberry and Thomas - he's not called Thomas the Tank Engine for no reason.

IIRC WCE did have a lean year inbetween two good ones, but they were seriously ravaged by injuries in the middle year.

Collingwood just chose to send half their list off for operations mid year for corrections that would normally have waited until seasons end. It's a pity that Libber wasn't on the Pies staff at the time.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:54 pm 
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murraycray wrote:
Perhaps the Fevolas could start a new business venture, Dial An Idiot.
Either one could take calls.


You're obviously unaware that Alex Fevola is a very successful Photographer; and has been for years.

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/beauty/ ... 1qvel.html

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 5KGd3sXfgQ

http://au.linkedin.com/pub/alex-fevola/29/aa5/159

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:18 pm 
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Brendan Fevola admits Carlton is a better team without him.
Brendan Fevola admits he once followed team rules but quickly mended his ways.
Brendan Fevola admits he stuffed up his football career.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:40 am 
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Warby wrote:
murraycray wrote:
Perhaps the Fevolas could start a new business venture, Dial An Idiot.
Either one could take calls.


You're obviously unaware that Alex Fevola is a very successful Photographer; and has been for years.

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/beauty/ ... 1qvel.html

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 5KGd3sXfgQ

http://au.linkedin.com/pub/alex-fevola/29/aa5/159

Fully aware of that. Having a high profile surname probably wasn't exactly an impediment for her either.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:42 am 
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Warby wrote:
murraycray wrote:
Perhaps the Fevolas could start a new business venture, Dial An Idiot.
Either one could take calls.


You're obviously unaware that Alex Fevola is a very successful Photographer; and has been for years.

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/beauty/ ... 1qvel.html

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 5KGd3sXfgQ

http://au.linkedin.com/pub/alex-fevola/29/aa5/159


Alex married Brendan.

Fairly safe to say regardless of any other achievements in her life that one action would qualify her as an idiot.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:02 am 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
I think there are different types of tanking, and I don't believe you have to have dropped ladder positions to do so.

Basically though tanking = not wanting to win

Whether thats by playing players out of position, sending players in for operations or threatening staff with the sack if your team wins.

The Priority Pick system has encouraged teams to not want to win and its been staggering the AFL are only now investigating it.


Remember about 2 years ago when Freo played Hawthorn in Tassie? They sent basically their reserves team down and lost by over 100 points because they wanted all their players fresh for the game the following week in Perth against us?

Every football commentator called that "list management" :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:12 pm 
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Warby wrote:
murraycray wrote:
Perhaps the Fevolas could start a new business venture, Dial An Idiot.
Either one could take calls.


You're obviously unaware that Alex Fevola is a very successful Photographer; and has been for years.

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/beauty/ ... 1qvel.html

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 5KGd3sXfgQ

http://au.linkedin.com/pub/alex-fevola/29/aa5/159


She has been a high profile photographer for many years.

As for successful, well...

As someone who is reasonably immersed in photography so I did have a look through her website though - have to say that its one of the LEAST impressive 'pro-photographer' websites I've seen. Ever.

Her photos are actually pretty average (defined as being slightly above 'happy snaps')

Wedding section - a couple of what are presumably hero shots + a sample album of fairly average shots
Portfolio section - a couple shots that are ok, but some fairly average ones as well
Celebrity section - most shots pretty average

None of the photos on the site show any use of lighting techniques and for a 'pro-photog' website the the sample image quality for the most part is actually quite bad (resolution, exposure, colour balance, lighting etc).

Without seeing her business financials, I'd suggest that there is a limit to her genuine success as a pro-photographer (one you remove the fevola fame/noteriety aspect of it)


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:16 pm 
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4thchicken wrote:
Warby wrote:
murraycray wrote:
Perhaps the Fevolas could start a new business venture, Dial An Idiot.
Either one could take calls.


You're obviously unaware that Alex Fevola is a very successful Photographer; and has been for years.

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/beauty/ ... 1qvel.html

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 5KGd3sXfgQ

http://au.linkedin.com/pub/alex-fevola/29/aa5/159


She has been a high profile photographer for many years.

As for successful, well...

As someone who is reasonably immersed in photography so I did have a look through her website though - have to say that its one of the LEAST impressive 'pro-photographer' websites I've seen. Ever.

Her photos are actually pretty average (defined as being slightly above 'happy snaps')

Wedding section - a couple of what are presumably hero shots + a sample album of fairly average shots
Portfolio section - a couple shots that are ok, but some fairly average ones as well
Celebrity section - most shots pretty average

None of the photos on the site show any use of lighting techniques and for a 'pro-photog' website the the sample image quality for the most part is actually quite bad (resolution, exposure, colour balance, lighting etc).

Without seeing her business financials, I'd suggest that there is a limit to her genuine success as a pro-photographer (one you remove the fevola fame/noteriety aspect of it)

KK, front and centre please !

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:43 pm 
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King Kenny wrote:
"Carlton admits Brendan Fevola tried not to win"

This bloke is now nothing more than a 'dial a quote'.

The cheek he has when on so many occasions he had a care factor zero approach to a game.
That was some "Fev" occasions but more often than not he was the one that put in the most when most didn't give a shite during the Pagan years. Coleman Medals tell you that. Don't get those unless you're having a go. Even kicked 5 in that "protest" game, round 22 against North where we lost by 124pts.

Stereotype is alive and well as usual with football supporters.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:52 pm 
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4thchicken wrote:
murraycray wrote:
Perhaps the Fevolas could start a new business venture, Dial An Idiot.
Either one could take calls.


She has been a high profile photographer for many years.

As for successful, well...

As someone who is reasonably immersed in photography so I did have a look through her website though - have to say that its one of the LEAST impressive 'pro-photographer' websites I've seen. Ever.

Her photos are actually pretty average (defined as being slightly above 'happy snaps')

Wedding section - a couple of what are presumably hero shots + a sample album of fairly average shots
Portfolio section - a couple shots that are ok, but some fairly average ones as well
Celebrity section - most shots pretty average

None of the photos on the site show any use of lighting techniques and for a 'pro-photog' website the the sample image quality for the most part is actually quite bad (resolution, exposure, colour balance, lighting etc).

Without seeing her business financials, I'd suggest that there is a limit to her genuine success as a pro-photographer (one you remove the fevola fame/noteriety aspect of it)


OK.....so.....we have finished rubbishing Fevola; now......it's time to denigrate his Wife as well?

Do we ever finish with the character assassination and negativity?......are their little kids next?..... :roll:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:01 pm 
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Warby wrote:
4thchicken wrote:
murraycray wrote:
Perhaps the Fevolas could start a new business venture, Dial An Idiot.
Either one could take calls.


She has been a high profile photographer for many years.

As for successful, well...

As someone who is reasonably immersed in photography so I did have a look through her website though - have to say that its one of the LEAST impressive 'pro-photographer' websites I've seen. Ever.

Her photos are actually pretty average (defined as being slightly above 'happy snaps')

Wedding section - a couple of what are presumably hero shots + a sample album of fairly average shots
Portfolio section - a couple shots that are ok, but some fairly average ones as well
Celebrity section - most shots pretty average

None of the photos on the site show any use of lighting techniques and for a 'pro-photog' website the the sample image quality for the most part is actually quite bad (resolution, exposure, colour balance, lighting etc).

Without seeing her business financials, I'd suggest that there is a limit to her genuine success as a pro-photographer (one you remove the fevola fame/noteriety aspect of it)


OK.....so.....we have finished rubbishing Fevola; now......it's time to denigrate his Wife as well?

Do we ever finish with the character assassination and negativity?


Long bow much? Nothing to do with rubbishing his wife - you stated that she is a successful photographer in her own right.

My contention is that her professional website (which you linked to) does nothing to demonstrate that she is a successful photographer in her own right.

I've commented specifically on her work/presentation of her work (as a successful photographer) - it has nothing to do with rubbishing her. If you dont think that commenting on her credentials as a photographer is appropriate, then dont advertise her as a VERY successful photographer.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:37 am 
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It all started with MurrayCray's "dial-an-idiot" post.
Funniest thing I've read all week. :grin:

Honestly, if you're not comfortable reading critical opinion, (informed or otherwise), is this sort of forum really the place for you? (Unless of course criticising the criticisers is your thing, in which case enjoy!).


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:56 am 
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The fact that the most famous photograph taken by a Fevola is Brendan's mobile phone snap of Lara in the shower tells you all you need to know about Alex's prowess with a camera.

Just another famous-for-being-famous C Grade celebrity trying to turn fame into fortune.


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