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 Post subject: Re: Round 6 Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:34 pm 
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I do, however take issue with you calling me lazy.


Point taken and I apologise. I look forward to hearing the result of your phone call.

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 Post subject: Re: Round 6 Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:24 pm 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
This is something which really irks me, and is a massive con:

With the match being played on Friday night, and our next match not until the Monday of the next round, did the Club make any effort to get some of the guys (obviously you would want guys like Murphy who had his arm in a sling to miss it) to interact with a local, aligned footy club up here? Get the players to go to the ground, watch the match? Mix with some players and pass on some words of encouragement and advice?

It would have been a massive boon to the local club, and their players, and a big thing for supporters up here to possibly be able to mingle in a less sterile environment than the usual events, not to mention a massive PR boost, and a good basis for some Essendon-style puff piece journalism (hell, if you can't beat 'em in the papers.....)

Disappointing effort.


KK, just wondering what makes you think that the players spending time at a suburban football club in Sydney is the best way to maximise members or support to the CFC? While it may be a ‘massive boon to the local club, and their players’, would it really be the best use of their time in order to improve membership or getting the Carlton name out there? I'm all for improving our financial position as a club and getting us at a level that can compete with Collingwood, but not sure if that is really going to get us there.


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 Post subject: Re: Round 6 Pros & Cons
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I'm sure we're all for a massive boon though.

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 Post subject: Re: Round 6 Pros & Cons
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 Post subject: Re: Round 6 Pros & Cons
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With the game being a Friday night I'd assume most of the local clubs were involved with their own competitions on the Saturday. If you wanted a junior clinic more likely they get up there early and have it on the Thursday. If the club chose to really approach this game with a steely resolve and have nothing distract them from the job at hand then mission accomplished I say.


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 Post subject: Re: Round 6 Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:42 pm 
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number 10 is cursed wrote:
With the game being a Friday night I'd assume most of the local clubs were involved with their own competitions on the Saturday. If you wanted a junior clinic more likely they get up there early and have it on the Thursday. If the club chose to really approach this game with a steely resolve and have nothing distract them from the job at hand then mission accomplished I say.


That's why I said they could have considered hosting a social day at that club's matches that day. Given the extended gap, it was an ideal opportunity to take advantage of it to the benefit of local footy, and Carlton.

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 Post subject: Re: Round 6 Pros & Cons
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Looks like a pretty small boon to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Round 6 Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:53 pm 
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Blue Boys wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
This is something which really irks me, and is a massive con:

With the match being played on Friday night, and our next match not until the Monday of the next round, did the Club make any effort to get some of the guys (obviously you would want guys like Murphy who had his arm in a sling to miss it) to interact with a local, aligned footy club up here? Get the players to go to the ground, watch the match? Mix with some players and pass on some words of encouragement and advice?

It would have been a massive boon to the local club, and their players, and a big thing for supporters up here to possibly be able to mingle in a less sterile environment than the usual events, not to mention a massive PR boost, and a good basis for some Essendon-style puff piece journalism (hell, if you can't beat 'em in the papers.....)

Disappointing effort.


KK, just wondering what makes you think that the players spending time at a suburban football club in Sydney is the best way to maximise members or support to the CFC? While it may be a ‘massive boon to the local club, and their players’, would it really be the best use of their time in order to improve membership or getting the Carlton name out there? I'm all for improving our financial position as a club and getting us at a level that can compete with Collingwood, but not sure if that is really going to get us there.


I didn't say it was the best way. But any way has to be better than the way which is happening, or not, at the moment.

The players are used constantly to host clinics, visit sick kids, do sponsors' days etc in Melbourne, so the club obviously sees a benefit to them doing it, so why not up here? Especially with a longer than usual gap until the next match.

A few years back, Carlton all but abandoned Sydney to Collingwood and Essendon*, and as a result, their matches are the big seasonal drawcards up here. That really sticks in my craw. Essendon* for one pumped massive amounts of money into grassroots footy up here, and it even got to the point that in the week of the match with Essendon*, Kevin Sheedy would turn up and coach the local affiliated club, the North Shore Bombers, and they'd donate footballs, jumpers etc. That sort of investment buys loyalty from the kids playing at that club.

There are so many things which could be done with very little effort by all involved, yet all we end up with are missed opportunities.

All anyone here wants is the best for the club. The best for Carlton. The best for "The Brand". There would be many people, me included, who would do what they could to help arrange some of those things I've mentioned, help contribute with PR, photos, etc. but aren't even given the courtesy of a look in.

The best thing I can see from Friday night's match, PR-wise into the future, though, is that with this "free goal" furore, and the bitterness around it, it will heighten anticipation for the Swans to extract revenge. So fingers crossed that the Powers That Be seek an SCG match next year to capitalise on the potential hype.

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 Post subject: Re: Round 6 Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:14 am 
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where is sydney?

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 Post subject: Re: Round 6 Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:52 am 
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I've read that some people think Mumford flogged us in the ruck. Combine the efficiency rates of our boys with the clearances for our boys and you get a different story.

Ruckwork (Stats thanks to ProStats)

Player - Contested - Hit Out - Centre Bounce - Ball Up - Throw In - Efficiency

Carlton
R. Warnock 63 21 3 3 15 81%
S. O'hAilpin 42 10 1 1 8 70%

Sydney
S. Mumford 60 34 12 5 17 41%
M. Pyke 44 20 1 19 50%
3 J. White 1 1 1 0%


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 Post subject: Re: Round 6 Pros & Cons
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where is sydney?

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Rafa, as I've said in backing up that info, that sort of disadvantage in the hitouts would see us get smashed in dry weather. Thankfully it's just McEvoy this week.

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 Post subject: Re: Round 6 Pros & Cons
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i've heard of sydney road.

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